Re-yeast a high abv with Chimay?

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  1. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I wanted to make my strongest quad ever to have for the spring, and I did. OG 1.16 to FG 1.024 for ~17.something%. I used Chimay yeast, and I'd like to stick with it. So do you think adding fresh Chimay yeast at bottling will work for carbing, or should I use champagne yeast?
     
  2. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    No idea, but that is a really high ABV for "normal" yeast. I guess if the original yeast worked through all of that, then re-yeasting with the same should work. But, it is probably safer to use champagne yeast.

    Hopefully someone smarter will chime in :slight_smile:

    What did your recipe look like?
     
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  3. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I have been doing partial extract recipes lately to shorten my brewdays.

    12lbs pils DME
    2lbs wheat DME
    3lbs D-180 syrup
    1lb flaked wheat
    1lb aromatic
    2.5L Chimay starter
    and I can't remember what hops.

    Just under 5gallons fermented at 68F for 2 days with blowoff, added the syrup at day 2 and transferred to a 73F room.
     
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  4. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    So does anyone think that Chimay yeast will work?
     
  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    By fresh Chimay yeast, do you mean from a bottle of beer? That won't be very healthy. If by fresh, you meant fresh out of a vial of WLP 500 or better yet a recently made starter, that sounds better, but you wouldn't need the whole vial. I have no experience carbonating anything this high in gravity, but I would think the easiest, low expense approach might be a quarter pack or so of rehydrated dry champagne yeast. Bottling yeast is unlikely to have a major impact on the flavor profile of the beer, and champagne yeast will stop when the simple sugars are consumed. Expect carbonation to take a while, though. These yeast are fighting an uphill battle in this high ABV environment.
     
  6. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    Yeah, I have a pint starter I was going to use. If it will work. I know champagne yeast will, but I really just wanted to stick with the Chimay.
     
  7. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    nope.
     
  8. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Is that the actual yeast you used? The WLP 500? Or one of the other White Labs or Wyeast strains?
     
  9. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    I never use yeast to carb up my big beers, mostly Belgians. Two cups of water and one cup of table sugar has always worked for me, up to 12.5% alc. Not sure above that, but I would probably just add a pinch more sugar if my beer was up around 17%.
     
  10. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I used a half a pack of re-hydrated 1118, it's working.
     
  11. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I have no experience with anywhere near this high of ABV, so I'm looking at this purely from a spec sheet perspective. Why not WLP099, which is specifically used for high ABV, with a tolarance 25%.
     
  12. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    Poor planning, lack of WLP099 not being readily available where I live, never used it, worry about over attenuation in bottles, etc...
     
  13. nottherealEBW

    nottherealEBW Aspirant (239) Aug 13, 2015 Indiana

    You could try the Chimay yeast but I kind of doubt it will do anything. I think the Champagne yeast is your best bet. That or a keg.
     
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