The Reverse Beer Snob Pandemic

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by AlienSwineFlu, Aug 13, 2015.

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  1. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    Sit back and let me tell you a rant disguised as a tale...

    Many moons ago, good old fashioned beer snobbin' was getting a little out of control. Endless banter about AALs and anything that could be remotely linked to AB-InBev was all over these forums, and it started to give us all a bad rep. So we came together and emerged from the craft beer dark ages into a more enlightened era of acceptance, where we collectively chastised members for the incessant macrobrewery hate. Soon, BA users were free to post unironic pictures of Diet Heineken in the WBAYDN thread and instead of hate, they were receiving likes. Rejoice. :sunglasses:

    Unfortunately, the reverse beer snobbism has now taken hold. Instead of people being snobs about people drinking worse beer than them, they're being snobs about people drinking better beer than them.

    "I would never pay over $8 for a bottle. Let the idiots spend $$ on over-hyped bottles, I'll enjoy my Two Hearted."

    "I'll never understand why people wait in line for 'whalez' when there's equally as good beer sitting on shelves."

    "You're not going to catch me rushing to the store on my lunch break to try to get a bottle of KBS over the neckbeard hipsters."

    You know... no one cares. You're on a site called "BeerAdvocate." It's great that you don't care about chasing rare beers, but again, no one cares. There's just no need for the annoying comments all the time. Now don't worry, you're not hurting my feelings... I just thought someone should give you a PSA that you're being douchebags. :wink: The end.
     
  2. Lucular

    Lucular Grand Pooh-Bah (4,367) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    What I can't stand is people being snobs about the various forms of beer snobbery. :wink:
     
  3. Warren2621

    Warren2621 Pooh-Bah (1,737) Sep 26, 2014 Indiana
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    Nice post. I havent been on these forums long but that is something that I have noticed as well. I feel like if people participate in these forums then they understand that traveling and waiting in line for beers that cost a lot of money is just part of the game. If people werent out there getting these bottles and spending the money, then there wouldnt be reviews and other knowledge on the beer. Not only that, but these sought after bottles just strengthen the community here. It gives us conversation topics, it gives people the chance to be excited about their find and discuss the quality of the beer with other people who went though the same struggle to get it.
     
  4. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    Humans must always make themselves better than others in some way.
     
  5. Warren2621

    Warren2621 Pooh-Bah (1,737) Sep 26, 2014 Indiana
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    Also, not saying people here do this, which they might.. but the ones that dont want to drop the dough and take the time for these beers are the ones that passive aggressively put down the people who do. And they are also the people that act like they dont care about a release, but if you come back with a case of said beer, they want to buy some off of you without putting the work in.

    I enjoy getting beers for my friends that will appreciate it, but when I feel like they dont appreciate the time and effort it took me to get these beers back home, i'm not going to make a special effort to ensure that they get any. I dont like being the one who drives all day, buys the gas, puts out the money for the beer and then have a bunch of people wanting to reap the benefits of the work I did. Its all subjective, I have friends that I will gladly buy their beer and bring it home and sell it for what I bought it for, but then there are others who I dont care if they get the beer or not because they wanna have the attitude that they dont care.. when they really wish they had the beer.
     
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  6. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    I appreciate your thoughts. I personally get tired of somebody from say, Texas(just using it as an example) saying "My favorite go to IPA is Heady"..yeah well good luck getting it fresh all the time.

    I advocate for what is actually available to people locally. If you don't like me because of that, then that is your choice. If you want to rush off to wait in line or trade for stuff, have at it. I just personally get tired of answers to "what is the your favorite" threads being something that a person can't reasonably expect to have around all the time.

    I once had a bottle of Alpine Nelson like 4 years ago. It was awesome. Would I reply that it's my best beer to drink normally..no. Cause it isn't reasonable for me to be able to acquire it.

    I don't feel I'm being a douchebag talking about what is actually good at a local store. If you feel that way, congratulations.

    Drink what makes you happy.
     
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  7. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    I think you're missing my point. There's nothing wrong with advocating for drinking local, fresh, shelf, etc. But there's a faction of those people with an extremely elitist attitude who are all over this site posting condescending comments on nearly every thread when a rare beer is mentioned.
     
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  8. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    Well, I think you just described a typical cycle of the beer nerd:

    - Drinks first beer, macro or shite micro
    - Discovers 'good' beer, possibly in his own back yard
    - Trades/travels to other locals, finds more good beer
    - Becomes an 'advocate', spreading the good word to anyone that will listen
    - realizes not all rare, hyped beer is great, or even good
    - Becomes jaded, and maybe cynical
    - Reverse beer snob is born

    At least that's my journey.
     
  9. ECdOc

    ECdOc Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2004 Pennsylvania

    The fact of the matter is that there was once a time where snobbery was looked down upon, especially in the beer circles. We made fun of the wine guys for doing that and here we are full circle with narcissistic millennial hipster types taking up the slack. Now its a baseball card trading "game" as some of you guys call it. It's generational. Before you were on this site it was very much different, take note as to the join dates on the people with different opinions to you. The beer landscape has changed in many ways over the years but what is important over everything else is to drink what you like. No one cares about what you think anyways, so stop being so narcissistic and getting butthurt over what other people think. If you want to wait in line for a beer, go for it, but don't expect anyone to respect you for doing so.
     
  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    People who claim that they won't spend $8 on a beer, stand in line for a small batch beer, or rush on their lunch break for a quick selling release aren't being snobs... they are exercising healthy judgement. They balance things out a little over here in the land of the extreme.
     
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  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I feel like Napolean Dynamite, without expression or concern.
     
  12. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    I really don't think it's as serious a problem as you're making it out to be (certainly not a "pandemic"). This site is a lot like life . . . not everyone is carefully constructing condescending rants, or participating in "reverse snobbery." They're just shooting the shit, getting cranky sometimes, yanking each other's chain, etc. Another thing I realized after a couple years on BA is this important fact: many people are drinking while they're posting. Just like at a bar, you're not going to hold everyone to the highest standards of civil discourse and political correctness. If you find certain comments annoying, just ignore them and have another beer.
     
  13. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    Trust me, it's not just me thinking this. Also, "join dates" are an odd way for you to judge site superiority/beer knowledge when they don't at all reflect you know... using the site previously or other accounts. But hey, sorry I offended you today. :sunglasses: God damn "millennial hipsters" on your lawn and I'm the narcissist. :rolling_eyes:
     
  14. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    Oh, I will. But as long as people are going to call out people being snobs for drinking whatever it may be, it needs to be 2-way street. Snobs are snobs, it goes both ways.
     
  15. October

    October Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I get what you are saying. But just keep in mind that these forums are not a microcosm of the beer community at large. I can assure you that in general, regular beer snobbery is alive and well, much more so than this reverse beer snobbery.
     
  16. GetTheYayo

    GetTheYayo Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I don't think waiting in line for a rare release, paying more than $8 for a beer, or trying to get to a store before they sell out of a certain beer are "extreme" behaviors. Extreme behaviors are literally following the delivery truck from store-to-store (I've seen it happen), buying up every freaking bottle or case that you can, becoming so obsessed with drinking good beer that you spend more money than you really should on it, etc. That's not excercising healthy judgement. Waiting in line with fellow beer lovers, dropping an Andrew Jackson on a beer, and rushing to get to the store are all part of the beer hobby. Beer, to some people, is a hobby and like most hobbies it requires time, patience, and money. But the rewards are great. That's how I look at it.
     
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  17. Boverhof3

    Boverhof3 Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2006 Michigan

    The beer in my glass tastes just as good whether someone else loves it or hates it.
     
  18. Chcshammonde

    Chcshammonde Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2014 California

    Good post! I also think the threads that bash on beers people personally don't like but are well-reviewed are dimwitted and completely missing the point of this site. Its called "BeerAdvocate" for a reason. If you don't like a beer or brewery then don't fucking buy it!
     
  19. ECdOc

    ECdOc Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2004 Pennsylvania

    I absolutely believe that you aren't the only one thinking that way, nor am I the only one thinking the way I do. See, it's funny in that there is no site superiority regardless of post counts, join dates, etc...I for one know that. I was merely mentioning that I, for one, and many others having been in this scene for a very long time have literally watched the shifting waters that brought us to where we are, we are qualified to comment as such. What you know is no metric as to what has been happening in the beer scene, not sure where this is coming from (you must think you know a lot). Also, you can trust that you haven't offended me, sorry if that hurts you, being a narcissist and all. Your postings are confirming my initial suspicions. No worries, I'd still crack and share a beer with you if I ever see you around. You see, the beer community should be all inclusive...something that seems to be lost these days when the focus is on "look what i got, and what you can't get".
     
  20. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

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