New England IPA

solid argument- but I do think that the main breweries(trillium, tree, alchemist discussed continue to up production and do not intend them to be traded so high or have their buyers use them to land whales.

 

its not that red. picuture has a filter.. Julius is a beautiful dark orange that is completely hazy and just down right unreal!

 

Entirely true. It was meant as a joke and I actually tried to put in one of those smiley face things but didn't figure them out until after the time limit for editing had passed.

 

Well the question was about the picture, not what Julius looks like in real life.

 

I'd also say VT over NE. When I think of NE, I really think it all comes back to VT and really all back to Alchemist. Heady Topper and Holy Cow (the old vs, not the different new one) were absolutely nothing like anything else in world over a decade ago. Heady was much more tropical with a bigger nose (obviously from memory, but I do think it's changed since ending up in cans, let alone over the last few years) than anything else (and as aggressive if not more than anything else... but minus the typical pine/grapefruit than usual, much softer). Holy Cow was maybe the original session IPA. 5.16% it was a mini Heady Topper, an absolute juice bomb. All tropical, just a tiny bit of bitterness, very soft.

Also to note: HT and Holy Cow predate just about everything but Pliny and Blind Pig. If you use the "Pliny created the American DIPA", there's no reason you can't use the same argument for Alchemist and the VT style IPA. But again, no need for new styles/sub styles.

 

I only really take issue with all of New England trying to claim a stylistic interpretation that was specifically created in VT. If you want to be technical about it, it spread to Ardmore, PA before reaching most of the rest of New England, so I don't see how all of New England can claim it as theirs.

Also, turbid mud milkshakes. What the holy fuck, Alstroms.

 

Great pic right there.

 

The original undoctored photo....

 

So I don't find that beer overly attractive looking. I've had it and it tastes great but the look is less desirable to me. I don't need a clear beer but a hazy beer that has some brightness looks better.

I care much more about taste and Julius is damn tasty so I don't care what it looks like.

I don't get the fascination with uber hazy and turbid beers as saying those beers are gorgeous.

 

If we're scoring by look at all, it looks like shit. May taste great, but you remind me of fat chicks declaring that 300lbs is just as beautiful as skinny chicks solely because you say so.

 

OMG, next you're going to tell us that NE *doesn't* have the only football team or the best coffee chain. Or that everyone else doesn't talk funny, it's us {faints}

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that looks more like an IRA than an IPA to me. See my avatar?(notorious) That is the definition of a gorgeous IPA in my opinion of course.

 

I know you're joking but I love visiting Dunkin when I'm in Boston. Starbucks is nasty ... give me a regulah at Dunkin any day.

Now if the good beer of NE were as easy to find as Dunkins I'd enjoy my trips to Boston a lot more!

 

I agree with you, but certain things become known for where they are done well and are most revered. Apples and apple pie are both from China, for instance, and there is no better example than that.

 

Guys, you are looking at the "undoctored" photo! You need to look at the doctored photo to truly appreciate how unreal that beer looks.

 

I get all that, but I'd be willing to bet that brewers on both coasts (and in the middle of the country too) are doing that sort of research and not just in the NE. I had a fantastic IPA from a local brewery here in KY last night.. it was quite hazy, not overly bitter, and wreaked (in a good way) of tropical fruit. Again, I'm not saying that NE IPAs are bad... in fact some I've had are fantastic (some not so much), but I don't think they warrant a sub category all their own as I believe you can find very similar IPAs all over the country.

 

Oh shit... this is from New York (Astoria, NYC). I guess it's a NYIPA...



....and it's delicious!

 

NYIPA is the parent sub-style. But the newly recognised official sub-sub-style is the West Queens IPA. Sorry not trying to nit-pick. Great beer I agree!

 

Just the ones that know the sweater is high in minerals, like Stone, have RO. Some places in the U.S. Have water that is RO quality, like Portland OR. Some breweries use acid to neutralize the alkalinity and brew with the acid treated water. There is no one way to do it, it varies from location and the beer being brewed that day.

I homebrew with RO water and add minerals to get the pH correct and the flavor ions right for the beer I am brewing.

 

IPAs originated in Connecticut so I think we should just call all IPAs New England IPAs