Buxton to quit cask ale, maybe, kinda

Discussion in 'United Kingdom & Ireland' started by Aye, Aug 26, 2015.

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  1. Aye

    Aye Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 England

    "News update: There has been a rumour circulating that we are ceasing making cask beer, which is not entirely true. We would like to put the record straight here:
    We have already reduced production of cask, and from September, it will only be available from our Tap House, in Buxton, and at various special events from time to time elsewhere.

    We've not rushed into this decision, in fact, cask beer has been a decreasing part of our business for some time, and it is no longer viable for us.

    The reasons behind this are numerous but quite simple, and include the following;
    Overwhelming customer demand for other formats - bottle and keg.
    Customer feedback.
    Quality control.
    Cask losses and theft.
    A depressed cask market place flooded with poor to average cask beer, sold cheap.

    We love cask beer, and the great traditions of British brewing that surround it. It's where we started, with Buxton SPA in 2008, which we still brew and is a great beer to drink on cask. Our wish is to continue presenting beer in cask, but in a way that we can have 100% control over it."

    ... Well fuck a doodle doo. to me that means unless Wetherspoons start doing Buxton keg beers it's a thirty minute train ride to any place likely to serve them and then be gouged for the privilege. same trip if I want to stock up on M&S bottles but less taxing on the pocket. Cheers Buxton, you've done me a solid.
     
  2. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    I think I've only ever had Moor Top from them before on cask and while it was very nice, I think its fair to say there are many nice pale and hoppy cask offerings going round

    Otherwise it's just bottles from them (usually excellent)

    seems like they are going the brewdog route and chasing the profit that you get from kegs, I suspect there will more and more breweries doing this as we have so many now

    In the long run it might actually be good overall if we get more breweries just concentrating on bottles/canned/ keg and the others concentrating on cask/bottles/cans etc. Although that split might fuel even more tedious cask v. keg arguments, but hopefully everyone will have grown up by then. Not holding my breath
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I noted that Bruxton mentioned: “Overwhelming customer demand for other formats - bottle and keg.”

    Would it be fair to say that other British breweries would make a similar comment: overwhelming customer demand for non-cask beer?

    Cheers!
     
  4. gavinbrooksbank

    gavinbrooksbank Initiate (0) May 24, 2011 England

    In other words, we can make more money doing keg and bottle
     
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  5. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    "A depressed cask market place flooded with poor to average cask beer, sold cheap."

    Where is this cheap beer?
     
  6. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    Wetherspoons and...... no I can't really think of anywhere else. Cask is often a bit cheaper than "premium" lagers and so on, but paying £3.50 -£4 a pint of something pale and hoppy (like moor top) is still not exactly cheap.

    Perhaps it's time for brewers and consumers to put more pressure on publicans/pubcos to treat beer a bit better. Climate controlled cellars would be a start
     
  7. Aye

    Aye Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 England

    Have keg Brewers taught you nothing? Didn't you know we've been paying too little for beer for centuries? It's about time they rectified this by resorting to the emperors new clothes; banging thirty Bob on the price and selling it to you in 2/3rds of a pint sat on a garden chair in a fucking warehouse on an industrial estate. May as well drink cans in a bus stop for the same ambience. Those shiny new fonts, chillers and new breweries aren't cheap either.

    Into the sea with you.
     
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  8. CwrwAmByth

    CwrwAmByth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,113) Jan 24, 2011 England
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    Reading the comments on Facebook is disappointing. Love the anti cask hipster types being so predictable in their intolerant, closed-minded views (and general arsehole-ness/punchability). Literally never met any of flat cap wearing, whippet owning types who are apparently the only people who like only beer served from a cask.

    It seems I've been wrong all along, you can't have good keg beer AND good cask beer.
     
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  9. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    My favourite way of drinking beer is via cask dispense, but I would certainly like to see a massive improvement in non-cask offerings from pubs/restaurants. I'm quite sure most consumers would too. A lot of the chain/pubco/hotel places tend to stick to offering rather uninspiring keg lines - for example, my local hotel/bar offers worthington smooth flow, guinness, coors light. Often (here in scotland at least) all you will see is Belhaven Best/Guinness/Tennents on keg lines and that is it . And so on. And the problem with breaking into this is that the likes of Heineken have started offering hundreds of free kegs of beer to their customers to keep their contracts going and squeeze out competition

    However, the increasing number of independent restaurants and bars though tend to want something different, so I can certainly see an increase in demand from that part of the industry and perhaps the smaller chains can certainly be a bit more flexible.I'm sure this is what the likes of Buxton are targeting


    Also, I think one of the main problems with the modern beer scene in the UK is the schism that is forming, see what CwrwAmByth alluded to, is that there is a large and growing scene of people who think they are cool and modern and so reject cask because you americans don't really do it and its seen as old hat here, so it must be shit. Which is utterly ******ed imo, but there we go, I'm 35 and so obviously don't know any better. And to add a bit of balance, yes there are a few people online who seem to think that keg=satans smegma, but I've yet to find one in the wild so to speak.
     
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  10. CwrwAmByth

    CwrwAmByth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,113) Jan 24, 2011 England
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    Especially ******ed given the quality of the US cask beer at the gbbf year after year
     
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