First-Ever Homebrew Help?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by HaynesJB, Aug 5, 2012.

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  1. HaynesJB

    HaynesJB Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 North Carolina

    So me and my brother brewed our very first beer yesterday. It's a 2-gallon batch of a basic hefeweissen recipe (extract) to get us started. It's been fermenting since 7:00 last night (Saturday), and it's 11:15 AM on Sunday as I type this. The air lock hasn't started bubbling yet, and this is concerning us. My brother is thinking we should add a little more yeast if it doesn't improve in the next few hours. Everything we used was thoroughly sanitized, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Any words of advice for a first-timer on how to troubleshoot this problem?
     
  2. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    How much yeast of what type did you add? How old was it?

    All that said, a 12-24 hour lag to begin fermentation is desirable, as during the replication phase a lot of the flavour compounds in a beer are produced. When I see people bragging about how they saw active fermentation in 2 hours I chuckle to myself as that short a lag is indicative of over pitching, which can be detrimental to a beer's final state.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Chances are there is no problem. The only thing I would do at this point is make sure the wort temperature is somewhere in the recommended range. I don't know what yeast strain you're using, but for a hefe we're probably talking somewhere around 62F-68F.
     
  4. HaynesJB

    HaynesJB Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 North Carolina

    We used one fourth of a pack of Fermentis Safbrew WB-06 (roughly 2.9 grams), and the expiration date is July 2013, so I'm guessing it's fresh. It seems like we were told that it should begin bubbling within the first 4 hours, but I have also seen YouTube videos of people's brews bubbling around the 24 hour mark. It's been around 68 degrees F since it started fermenting, so temperature isn't an issue here. Maybe it's too soon to really say anything at this point.
     
  5. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    Time to repitch.

    Lags up to 72 hours are fine and sometimes a result of the strain. After that It's a sign of weak yeast.
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If I was getting lagtimes of up to 72 hours with any strain, I'd consider it a problem, and be looking for solutions.
     
  7. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    His lag is at 18 hours now.

    That's a dry yeast so freshness is much less of a concern. That said, was the pack sealed that you were using? Do you still have the rest of the pack? Did you rehydrate your yeast or just dump it in?

    If it was unsealed it may not have been in its best state.
    Dumping it in kills ~50% of the cells, but many people get good beer doing that still, it just affects their pitching rate.
    If you have the rest of the pack that's great because you can do two things:
    1 - Proof the yeast to see if it actually is viable
    2 - Repitch more yeast if you hit about 36-48 hours without activity.
     
  8. HaynesJB

    HaynesJB Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 North Carolina

    It was sealed (bought it from a local homebrew store yesterday), and we still have the rest of it stored. Rehydrating didn't come to mind though, so we just dumped it in (oops). I'll remember that for next time though.
     
  9. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Why not the whole packet of yeast? Sounds underpitched to me, but I don't use dry yeast, so..

    Regardless, just let it sit for another day and see what happens. The yeast could be working, you just don't see it yet. After 48 hours, if I haven't seen anything I'll start to go through the process, chances are it's fine if you used enough yeast.
     
  11. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    A 2 gallon batch... MrMalty suggest 0.4 11.5 gram packs for 2 gallons of 1.048 (guessing at OG, but it is a Hef)
     
  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    See, I skipped that part.. Small batch.

    With that said. Wait it out, OP. It'll get there, and be done quickly.
     
  13. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    Personally I don't disagree, but as a rule I don't sweat inside 72 based on what I've seen with some strains and tasted in fellow brewer's beers
     
  14. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    With pure brett I've seen lags up to a week
     
  15. HaynesJB

    HaynesJB Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 North Carolina

    Thanks. I have it bookmarked.

    Well, it looks like me and my brother were paranoid after all. After 25 hours of inactivity, it's starting to lightly bubble now. Thanks for the input, everyone! Activating the yeast will be top priority next time before adding it.

    Cheers!
     
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  16. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    For a 2G batch size...1/2 pack dry yeast is enough for a most worts.
    Pitching two level teaspoons is an easy and convenient way to measure the right amount.
     
  17. Spoonheim

    Spoonheim Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2012

    I'm assuming you got some really good fermentation going on that by now - possibly even slowing down a bit. How does it feel?
     
  18. HaynesJB

    HaynesJB Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2011 North Carolina

    I'm not so sure actually. It's bubbling, but it's still very slow; maybe one bubble every 30 seconds or so. We pitched in more yeast yesterday (Wednesday) afternoon (activated this time!), but the bubbling hasn't picked up at all. We're going to wait and see if it gets any better in the next day or so, and I really hope it doesn't turn out to be a kitchen sink beer. :slight_frown:

    On the bright side, I picked up a quick whiff of it as we pitched the yeast in. Smells awesome!
     
  19. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    No matter what happenedto your first berow, its begging of something amazing
     
  20. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

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