Does bigger bottles make for a better Belgain experience?

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  1. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    Over the years I have found myself shying away from the smaller bottles of Belgians in favor of the larger 750 ml bottles if available. The experience seems more full with a better distribution of live yeast.
    Granted, there are some you can not get a bigger version of (at least in the market around here) of say Abbaye De Rocs which is awesome in a big bottle. Sometimes one has no choice if they want to have a nice Belgian when the urge strikes.

    The advocates thoughts?
     
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  2. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    It's certainly more fun those big Belgian bottles :wink:

     
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  3. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    Cool----but that is a little TOO BIG.....had one of those before around Christmas and it was VERY NICE.
     
  4. Rhymkeeper

    Rhymkeeper Initiate (0) Aug 31, 2014 Alabama

    Generally I agree with you, though I'll often opt for smaller bottles to rid myself of the temptation to drink an entire 750ml bottle of high gravity deliciousness at one sitting.
     
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  5. mooseisloose

    mooseisloose Pooh-Bah (1,773) Nov 16, 2005 Florida
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    The bigger the better. If they had a 5 liter like they do for wine, I would be on it.
     
  6. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I find Belgian beers (most of them, not all) are great to split. 750's are perfect for that.
     
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  7. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I've not noticed much difference between the 330 and 750 ml sizes since they seldom last longer than a year or two in my stock. Generally the 750 is saved for sharing so the whole bottle can be decanted at the same time with no swishing and glugging on the pour.

    When pouring I decant the liquid (as recommended by many brewers) and leave the yeast behind. If I want the yeast I'll shake up the last oz of liquid and sediment and pour them in a small glass to have on the side. I don't much care to have the yeast flavor in the beer. Especially since I discovered that some brewers use a different yeast for bottle conditioning than they use for fermenting, so the different yeast will be bringing "different" flavors to the beer.

    As for the "shot" of yeast on the side I started doing that some years back when I discovered that a fair number of Belgians who have regular easy access to such beers, including some that are aged, typically do that as well. So now I'm not "wasting" the yeast, but don't have those potentially different yeast flavors influencing the beer while I enjoy it.
     
  8. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    There is also the longevity issue of the 11.2 oz vs the 750. The smaller bottles seem to have the yeast go flat quicker than the bigger bottled counterparts.
     
  9. DaverCS

    DaverCS Savant (1,212) Dec 9, 2014 Arizona

    Drinking a Belgian beer is already a fun experience... add a monster bottle, the experience just got better... well if you can remember it!:wink:
     
  10. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    750 and share always.

    Referring to those huge bottles:

    Gimmicky...maybe. Costly...yes. Fun and impressive...hell yes!!! I'm all for it! (especially if someones pitchin' in)
    Cheers!
     
  11. Casey3236

    Casey3236 Pooh-Bah (1,641) Sep 14, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Maybe the Belgian people are just a friendly lot who prefer to share a beer with a friend
     
  12. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    My God---what is with all the beer charity when it is a 750 ml bottle! SHARING???? What's that!?!!?!:wink:
     
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  13. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    For Belgian styles don't you just want a 750 and most of it for yourself? I know I don't want a small BSDA or a little Tripel.
     
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  14. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    To be honest I do split every brew with the little lady, but can honestly say that when you enjoy a full Piraat, Bornem, or Maredsous in a 750ml bottle in a snifter yourself it is a treat which happens for me every time it is my b-day. Other than that it is the obligatory share. Trouble is the 11.2 oz tripels or quads are just not enough to split....and the price for such makes a bigger bottle more economical as well as aging better with a nice cork top as compared to a cap.
     
  15. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I have never noticed a difference between beer in a 350 ml or 750 ml.
     
  16. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    So.... More beer equals better experience.
    Got it.
     
  17. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    When I first heard a couple of people arguing that Chimay Blue in the 33 cl bottle is a different beer than the 75 cl bottle I thought the whole thing was absurd but after several years of subjecting the idea to rigorous testing I think the beer conditions better in the larger bottle. The only time I had the opportunity to test the idea with fresh beer I was in no condition to judge.
     
  18. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Also noticed a slight difference in St. Bernardus abt 12 750 versus it's little companion as well. The 750 has more of a sweeter flavor versus the more yeasty flavor of the 33cl.
     
  19. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    You are absolutely right. I did a blind test with a 33 cl Westie 12, a 33 cl St. Bernardus 12 and a 75 cl St. Bernardus 12. They were all purchased in Amsterdam so were reasonably fresh and the 75 cl St. Bernardus came in first, the Westi second and the 33 cl St. Bernardus came in 3rd but they were all very close.
     
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  20. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    This is where I find myself as well. My wife enjoys just a handful of styles: porters, stouts... and Belgians. Quads, tripels and dubbels. Which makes the 750ml bottles perfect whenever the urge strikes. I've seen the little bottles of Fin du Monde and Triple Karmeleit... they look cute, but they're not coming home with me.
     
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