star anise in a stout - how much?

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  1. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    anyone know how much to use to get a noticeable licorice flavour in a stout?
    was thinking 1 whole piece/star per 5 gallons
     
    #1 atomeyes, Sep 6, 2015
  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Brewer's licorice - 1/2 stick in the boil.

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    #2 Brew_Betty, Sep 6, 2015
  3. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    haven't seen it in Toronto, and seeing that it is a long weekend, it won't work for tomorrow
     
    #3 atomeyes, Sep 6, 2015
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    One star/5 gallon
     
    #4 hopfenunmaltz, Sep 7, 2015
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  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Not much at all. You don't want to be drinking Jegger. I'd be doing this post boil.
     
    #5 inchrisin, Sep 7, 2015
  6. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    i'm brewing a tiger tail milk stout. so, licorice and orange. perhaps i'll put it in with 10 min left in boil
     
    #6 atomeyes, Sep 7, 2015
  7. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    adding at 10 min make sense?
     
    #7 atomeyes, Sep 7, 2015
  8. Wanda

    Wanda Zealot (518) Nov 23, 2006 Tennessee

    I'd probably go with a tincture using vodka as the medium. Then after fermentation add to get the amount of flavor you want. It may take some sampling to get the right mix but you'd be able to dial it in a bit better.
     
    #8 Wanda, Sep 7, 2015
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  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    It might be a spice that I'm sensitive to, but I would do a KO addition. If I did a boil addition, it would be 2 or 3 arms, a sanitized taste after cooling, and an addition after high krausen.
     
    #9 inchrisin, Sep 7, 2015
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    5 to 10 would work.
     
    #10 hopfenunmaltz, Sep 7, 2015
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Gordon Strong's chai spiced brown ale uses 1 star per 5 gal according to an online source. I patterned a chai-spiced mead from this recipe and thought the spicing was great. For my mead, I added spices to primary fermenter. Because there are other spices present, the anise does not necessarily carry the spice mixture, but it is prominent component. I'd start with 1-2 in primary, and you can always add a tincture to taste at packaging if this doesn't do it.
     
    #11 pweis909, Sep 7, 2015
  12. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    so i ended up tossing in one whole star at 30 min. my friend protested at my desire to add the star at 20 or 15 min. so 30 it was.
    at the end, he was complaining that there was little noticeable anise smell to the wort. i could smell it, but then his wife came by. she smelled it and said zero anise. my wife said the same.
    either i have a good nose, or they're wrong. so we'll see post-fermentation.
     
    #12 atomeyes, Sep 7, 2015
  13. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    By adding early, you probably got less flavor/aroma than you otherwise would have.
     
    #13 VikeMan, Sep 7, 2015
  14. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Ever notice a lack of hop flavor and aroma with a 30 minute hop addition VS a flameout/hop stand/ dry hop addition ?

    Why would star anise be any different?
     
    #14 psnydez86, Sep 8, 2015
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  15. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    but but beersmith said 30 min!!
     
    #15 atomeyes, Sep 8, 2015
  16. memory

    memory Zealot (700) Oct 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    I've used 2 ground up at flameout and it was fine for my taste.
     
    #16 memory, Sep 8, 2015
  17. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    None. Ugh. Magic Hat's Starlit Star Anise Porter has turned me off to the concept entirely.
     
    #17 tkdchampxi, Sep 8, 2015
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