eBay and Beer Sales

Makes sense, and only complements what I think I was thinking here; this thread has gone in so many directions that it can be hard to remember!

 

This is awsome

 

But your trading it into someone elses hands, the benefit seems mutual. For all we know people could be spreading beer across the country past the brewery's distribution. That sounds like advocacy to me. Also they are trading for a beer that perhaps they could not get otherwise. So as long as they are not in it for monitary rewards im fine. U cant exactly walk into a best buy and buy a flat screen with darklords

 

That sounds like commi talk to me. This is AMERICA GOD DAMN IT

 

Trading can be advocacy. But if you are buying over your allotment or far more than you need with the sole intention of trading I do not agree with that. Sure you are doing "good" by spreading the wealth but at the same time your actions have limited others actions in your own area. Those the good really outweigh the bad in that instance? Are you really respecting others by placing your own good ahead of theres? I am all about taking care of yourself and friends when possible but when some go over and above what is necessary at the expense of others I have an issue calling that advocacy.

I never realized respect was a communist idea.

 

I have a simple solution for all ... brewers - one bottle per person per release. Period.

 

Lol i was just messing. Idc either way really. What people do with their stuff after they buy it is none of my business

 

I'm over it... People can debate it on here forever and it's not going to make a difference. And in all honesty, it's not like the sales of beer online is going to go away just because eBay isn't allowing it anymore.

 

If they are a true collector I have no problem agreeing with you. I cannot understand it but I agree. I think its weird, as even wine nuts drink the stuff usually. But as I said in another post there are strange and weird folks out there.

 

Wouldn't that be nice, instead of maybe 24 bottles for a city.

 

To me if its a special release they should never bottle it, sell locally draft only, many do this. The ones that do sell bottle(s) they "know" whats going on. I bet every brewer out there has accounts on every web site. The few thousand that bite into this whale stuff is a small market but VERY profitable. More money than sense, if they stop paying more and more, this crap would stop.
I know never happen....

 

PTY is treated like this, Imagine if this was bottled? But as a beer lover I would love to get a glass, but I'm sure it's a hard get even if you live in the right area. If you weren't in the bar when it's tapped it's sideways in a few hours. As far as the BA Whales go, I wish they would up the production capabilities, and maybe they are who knows, but when an area receives 2 cases of KBS something seems wrong about that, and then reselling for 10 bucks a bottle. Splitting 4 pk's into singles is a very profitable venture, I hate it, but this year KBS was really a bitch to get.

 

Well as someone once wrote, you go to where it's made. I have no problem with it. KBS is nice and I had it before it got too crazy, and I been in San Diego. Its good beer, but its nothing so great I pay more for it. Its all just beer, sure some is really good. But I can live without it. If its on the shelf great and its a decent price great sold! but 99% I do not even read about or care about this stuff. its all hype and half of these beers are not that great. Besides all the great beer to me personally is NOT made in the USA.

 

Locals are more worthy of a breweries beer for the simple fact that they are likely the ones supporting the brewery year-round. Locals stop by the brewpub once or twice a week to grab a few pints or pick up a few 6 packs/ bombers of their beer every month. Non-locals only want the one beer, have never spent a dime on that brewery and likely won't buy any more of their beer until the next limited release comes along.

 

I don't think it necessarily needs to be a hypocritical stance. It seems to me that Shaun's against both trading and eBay when they take advantage of others, but in favor of both when they spread good beer and share it equitably among people who care about it. Of course, eBay's model doesn't ever work like that (at least I never see people listing Damon for $15 plus shipping). And sure, few trading relationships are like that anymore, but they do exist.

 

FTFY.

I think there's still a fairly strong network of regular traders that legitimately try to trade this way. But maybe that's just my experience...

 

I have those networks too, and those are my favorite trading relationships. But I don't think they're as strong or as high a proportion of the trading community as they once were. And worse, I think they are much harder for new traders to establish, because of the heightened perception of beers' "trade value". If Damon-for-$15-plus-shipping relationships were as common as some would like to think, we wouldn't be having a 19 page thread about eBay and "**** trading". I think the larger portion of "trading" (at least in the public eye, but my guess is privately too), has moved over towards the take-advantage side of things.

Of course, there are no stats on this, and anyone trying to make them up (like folks earlier in this thread) are just pulling numbers out their a**. FWIW, I hope you're right and that this dearth of listings on eBay allows some new traders to find good trading partners.

 

I don't think brewers being able to sell direct online is the utopia that many others think it is. It would have some benefits, but also many hassles. The amount of butthurt in threads after online sales (I love these threads BTW) for Black Tuesday, DLD tickets, and the recent fiasco with GABF are what we would have to look forward to if the state restrictions were all lifted. Just think how many thousands of people would be F5ing like madman for every Hill Farmstead or Russian River release. It's not like you would just be able to pop over to Alchemist's site and get Heady whenever you wanted. They would either have to announce sales or just through things on there unannounced, which would all get posted about via BA, RB, twitter, FB, Beerpulse...resulting in almost immediate sellouts.

Edit: Granted, many issues would be the result of a change and it would probably be smoother if online beer sales had been aloud since the advent of the net, but the fact of the matter is there would never be enough beer to meet demand.

 

Its why I do not trade its a hassle to ship. can you image after all the work bottling the beer, now they got to ship it one or two at a time? I doubt many Want to do that. Well if the markup was big enough they could I guess build a shipping department.

 

Wow, up to 19 pages. . . I would have thought more people were outside on the weekend drinking beer.