Thermapen Open Box Sale

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by PortLargo, Jan 29, 2015.

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  1. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    I do BIAB and I have to check temp very frequently because the kettle is on an element and can gain or lose some degrees pretty easily. I don't have a thermopen but I did just take advantage of the 15% off site wide to grab a RTC6000C. It'll be a lot more convenient for me.
     
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  2. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I may be an outlier, but here is how I mash. I divide my water into two pots (my kettle and a smaller pot). This is after I've already added any salts (except for anything I don't want to be in the mash), so the water will be identical in both pots. Except I then bring one pot to near boiling, and the other to about 145°F.

    I add my grain to my mash tun and add a fair amount of the 145°F water. Then I measure the temperature and add some hot water to bring it up to mash temp. If I overshoot, I add some more 145°F water, and so forth. I have to thoroughly mix after each addition, of course. I have to be a little careful to get the water/grist ratio right, although I've almost never had any trouble with that.

    It's laborious and time-consuming, but I usually manage to measure my mash temp within a few tenths of a degree of the target (however, I never get perfectly uniform measurements across the mash).

    [minor edit for clarity]
     
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  3. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    One thing I discovered when I first used the Thermapen is there is quite a bit of variation in my mash tun/cooler, even after what I thought was a lot of stirring. Basically, with my old thermometer I would take a couple of mash temps and it would appear stable, but the thermometer was so slow that it would keep adjusting. I was really surprised to find pockets in the mash that would be 5-8 degrees different from the rest, even after lots of stirring. I don't know that I make better beer now, but I have a much more accurate mash temp and it is easy to see if it is holding or if I need to add a little boiling water.
     
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  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Heat water to properly calculated strike temperature. Dump hot water in tun. Mix in grains. Let sit for 5 minutes. Check mash temperature with my slow, but adequately accurate digital thermometer. Boom...the mash temp is within one degree of what I planned. There are no adjustments, ever.
     
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Yeah. I've always assumed pockets were there. I measure temp at the hottest place in the mash tun (this location I keep my thermom at is consistently is the hottest). I figure that as long as I am consistent on this I can use this point to relate temp effects to other observations lie fermentability
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I alluded to having to sometimes adjust and I believe this is where my glass lab thermometer can fail me. It is easier to make a reading mistake. Of all the advantages people have mentioned, reading a digital screen and durability are the two things that would make me change. I'll consider the cheaper version people mentioned

    (Yeah, I have once broken my glass thermom in the mash tun. It was no big deal.and yes I have use cheap digital and dial thermometers that do not hold up to steam very well.)
     
  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    How about this long stem model?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=2126165162&pf_rd_i=393284011

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  8. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    My mash experience is exactly like @wspscott ; after a vigorous stirring I can still find fairly large differences in temps just a few inches apart. I keep stirring until it all equalizes which is considerably more than I ever did with a simpler thermo. Difficult to say my beer is better than it was pre-Thermapen, but my arms definitely get a better work-out.

    As utahbeer says, it has a large display . . . you can read it across the room. My backup thermo is a diminutive thermoworks model (<$20) which is just about as accurate but has small font. Sometimes my ego shows and I just enjoy something because it's a little bit slicker. An old girlfriend once asked me who was going to be satisfied with that small probe? I replied; "Me!".
     
  9. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    This is a family website.
     
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  10. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    It's got a big display, it's fast, it's accurate as all getup, and yadda, yadda, yadda. I like the fact that it's not likely to fail me on brew day. like the dozen or so that came before it (hence, it's a far cry cheaper, too!). And, as others have noted, it's superbly suited to cooking. Regarding the short probe, I use it to calibrate my 12" mechanical thermometer so I can read temperatures anywhere I want in the mash bed.
     
  11. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If one of my cheapo thermometers fails me (I have 6...3 of which are perm installed) then I guess I'm fucked : )
     
  12. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    For me the rapid equilibrium is most useful (and not just convenient) when I am heating my strike water for the mash. As the strike water heats up, most of the way I use a typical probe-on-a-wire oven thermometer that constantly measure the temperature. When the water gets close to my calculated strike temperature I whip out the thermapen and carefully monitor while stirring until I hit the desired temperature. I then mix the water into the grain (yes, water into grain), and then use the thermapen to make sure the grain bed is reasonably uniform in temperature. When the mash is done, I again mix again and measure the temperature so that I can calculate the average temp during the mash. I use a well insulated mash tun, so I don't worry about the slight decrease in temp during the mash. I just let the grain bed sit while mashing.
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    First official use of my RT600C -- checking the strike water temp for my saison. After 1 reading, I can say I am still happy with it!

    Yeah, I joined the bandwagon (well, one of them), when my turkey meatloaf broke my dial thermometer earlier in the week. What can I say? It wasn't a very good recipe.

    Edit: It does seem to take as many as 5 seconds to give a stable reading, so I imagine that all you people with Thermopens have shorter brew days.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    LOL! :grinning:

    Cheers!
     
  15. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Those all of those "5 seconds" really add up :slight_smile:
     
  16. simont1

    simont1 Zealot (609) Apr 2, 2013 Sweden

  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Thermapenis envy.
     
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  18. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Maven (1,470) Oct 28, 2010 Iowa
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    I bought a second one so I could have one in the kitchen, and one in the brewing/smoking area.
     
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  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I use my thermapens for smoking also. Fast read is great for getting the lid back on the bullet quickly.
     
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