OK to store pumpkin beers til next year?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by pwdbyhops, Sep 20, 2015.

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  1. pwdbyhops

    pwdbyhops Pundit (793) Apr 1, 2015 Ohio
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    So I know that with certain beers (e.g., IPAs like Heady Topper, Zombie Dust), you want to drink them fresh and as soon as possible because these mellow out shockingly fast. On the flip-side, people want to age stouts and barrel aged stouts in their cellars for years to come. Interestingly, I recently had a 2012 Sucaba that was clearly just too old.

    Anyway, I am about to load up on some Good Gourd, and I dont think I will drink it all this year. It's unlikely (though not impossible) that I will see it again next year since I dont live in Florida. So what to do? Its supposed to be one of the best pumpkin beers out there. I dont want to chase it every year. Will it stay fresh for next year? Mellow out a little? Mellow out a lot?
     
  2. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    The only one I tried to cellar was T.R.E.A.T from Midnight Sun. For over a year and yes, it mellowed out but the basic fresh flavours in it did not deteriorate much. The higher abv might have helped.
     
  3. gcg49

    gcg49 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2014 Texas

    I have a bottle of Central Waters Headless Heron from last year that I plan to drink this fall, I will try to chime in here.
     
  4. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Cellaring pumpkin beers is a better course of action than drinking them, IMO.

    Seriously, though, since the main flavors in pumpkin beers are the spices, not the pumpkin, I would think the flavors would drop off over time as the potency of the spices fade.
     
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  5. pwdbyhops

    pwdbyhops Pundit (793) Apr 1, 2015 Ohio
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    That is my feeling as well.
     
  6. st9647v3

    st9647v3 Pooh-Bah (1,778) Dec 28, 2011 New Jersey
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    I routinely cellar pumpkin beers as I typically amasse too many each season and they still taste great the following year, if not better.

    Enjoy!
     
  7. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    I have kept pumpkin beers for a year and did not notice any problems. It is hard to quantify how much of a difference there is, but I still enjoy them.
     
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  8. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    You can give it a shot but, as per the usual response to the question "Should I cellar this?" comes the question "Have you had it fresh?" If the answer is yes, then I say go for it. It's just within the optimal ABV range so it's a decent candidate.

    To provide my experience pertaining to the title of the thread, I just recently did a side-by-side with Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Smash: one fresh and one I had aged for a year. I definitely liked the aged one better since the spices were toned down, the roast came forward more, it wasn't as boozy as the fresh and the bit of oxidation that had occurred was a nice complement to the overall flavor profile. I actually think I'm gonna age one for two years this time around just to see what some more time will do to it. So, at least in the case of the 10.6% imperial pumpkin stout that I aged, it is definitely ok.
     
  9. pwdbyhops

    pwdbyhops Pundit (793) Apr 1, 2015 Ohio
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    Seems the consensus is that its not as big of a deal to age pumpkin beers as it is with the IPAs
     
  10. winningwes91

    winningwes91 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2014 North Carolina

    I'm just going to throw out that pumking cellars like a champ. I actually prefer it with a year or 2 on it
     
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  11. EF0rs

    EF0rs Initiate (0) Aug 21, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I've had mixed results. DFH Punkin did not survive a year for me. There was a strong wet paper taste in the middle/finish. I've had the same results as @winningwes91, Southern Tier Pumking, on the other hand, has aged wonderfully over the last year.

    If you have enough to try a sample of your Good Gourd at the six month mark, I'd do that. That's when I first notice the issue with the DFH.
     
  12. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    Pumpkinator is a good one to cellar. Any of Avery's BBA Pumpkins as well.
     
  13. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Pumpkinator actually only becomes drinkable after a year or so on it IMO. Fresh it's way too heavy on the spices.
     
  14. shnsajax

    shnsajax Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Idaho

    I actually like it fresh, but a lot of people agree with you.
     
  15. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I opened this thread to make a similar comment. From my experimenting, Pumking and to a lesser extent Warlock both cellar nicely.

    Elysian - the great pumpkin however was a pretty muddled thin mess that I would never age again.
     
  16. Rob1110

    Rob1110 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 Massachusetts

    I just opened some old pumpkins at a friend's place this past weekend for a bottle share. I've hosted pumpkin tastings 3 years in a row and we've never gotten to Pumking as people have always had too much by the end of the night and I've always saved that for last. I think it generally cellars well, sometimes better with a year or two than it is fresh. That said, I now have a Pumking vertical going back to 2010 and I'd like to see how it's held up.

    Others that I've noticed have cellared well: Rumpkin, Elysian Great Pumpkin (good but not wow), Elysian Dark o the Moon (good but not wow), Good Gourd, Good Gourd Almighty would probably hold up amazingly well, Oak Jacked and the 2011 version of the Fisherman's Imperial Pumpkin Stout was still holding up nicely the other night. Though the 2012 wasn't that good.

    That's the other thing you should consider. Aside from ABV, try it fresh and see if it has potential to age. If it's a fairly light beer now (which Good Gourd is not), it likely won't age well. If it's a spice bomb, big alcohol or has lots of structure, it should mellow and develop over time.
     
  17. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Weyerbacher's holds up well due to the 8% ABV. Pumking, unless you're a fan, has to be cellared to be tolerable. That beer to me is wretched with anything under a year on it. Even then I only want 2ozs of it.
     
  18. srgehl

    srgehl Crusader (437) Oct 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Just cracked open a Pumking Rum Barrel Aged I picked up last year. Lost a lot of the flavor... Tasted like nutmeg and water
     
  19. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Anything barrel aged or high abv should cellar just fine. My experience is that the pumpkin tones down, the spices balance and I tend to like the beer better because of that. But, standard cellar rules apply. Don't cellar a 5% pumpkin ale, it likely won't improve like a 9% Imperial Pumpkin Porter will.
     
  20. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Just cracked a Crown Valley from 2014. Tastes great. It does tone down a bit. But I enjoyed it fresh too.
    I have several 2014 Pumking's, a Warlock and a couple Avery's that I am looking forward to drinking this fall.
    I also set aside a Schlafly and a Whole Hog. Not sure if they will do as well.
     
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