Recarbonation? Is it possible?

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  1. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    I bottled my beers
     
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  2. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    Sorry about that. I bottled my beers 2 weeks ago and some of the bottles are well carbonated but some others, PET bottles, are flat, maybe this bottles had a problem with the cap seal and didnt hold the gas well. Is it possible to recarb a beer in this condition?
     
  3. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    It is possible to force carbonate a beer right before drinking it, but the carbonation level tends to come off overcarbonated when you do that (same concept as force carbonating with a soda stream, although there are better tools to use than the actual sodastream). It's hard to control the mouthfeel this way.

    If you are asking about where or not you can open the bottles up and just add more sugar, i'd recommend not doing it. Any number of things could go wrong with that, such as oxidation or bottle bombs, leading to some weird, off-flavors. If you measure the sugar right, it'll carbonate, but it likely won't taste good (although I've heard success stories, too, so you may want to risk it.
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If you're sure they are under-carbonated because of a bad seal (and not because they never carbonated), then yes, you could add carefully measured sugar and re-carbonate. But what assurance do you have that the seal will be better this time?
     
  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I don't have an opinion about whether you can try to re-carbonate, but I will offer that your problem may not be the caps on certain bottles but rather inconsistent carbonation because of not mixing the priming sugar well enough in your bottling bucket. You may want to revisit your bottling procedure before your next batch to correct this problem if you suspect that may be the reason for your lack of carbonation in some bottles. (Especially if you discover that some bottles are over-carbed.)
     
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  6. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    And if the PET bottles were filled either first or last, it would appear to be a bottle issue rather than a priming issue. Insufficient mixing was my first thought too.
     
  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    No, I think if bottle types were grouped for filling, then that could point to inconsistent mixing, but it could also be an indicator that the bottles/caps are to blame. If the bottle types were mixed up when filled in random bottle styles, and if only the PET bottles have the carbonation issue, then that would confirm the bottles are the culprit. But I think the OP has to decide if the mixing of the sugar is a possibility and fix that process if the answer is yes. If none of the bottles are over-carbed, then that would also point to the bottles as a reason.
     
  8. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Are we sure that the caps on the pet bottles are not CO2 permeable? My physical chemist friend kept of having failed experiments due to CO2 going through the cap material of the bottles he was working with.

    But, if these are those plastic bottles they make for home brewing, you may want to review your bottling technique and make sure you are mixing properly. If they are not carbonated decently in another week, you certainty could add sugar. Or a carb drop. If I am not mistaken, don't they make screw on attachments for bottles so they can be force carbed?
     
  9. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    The one time I bottled in PET I had no issues with carbonation across two different brands of seltzer water bottles YMMV
     
  10. Jos3h2r

    Jos3h2r Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Panama

    Ok. I noticed the bottles where not as firm to the touch as they use too. It was 1 bottle, one of the brewdemon PET bottles, the cap was broken and i didnt see the scratch on it and at first i though all my other bottles had the same problem, it might be from my last batch, i overcarb some bottles and some caps broke cos of the pressure, the crack in this cap was smaller and i might miss it when i was bottling. This didnt happend with the glass bottles, those got a very good carb level and they didnt explode. I think this brew demon bottles might be 1 use only. Now that im more confident with the carbonation ill just use glass bottles and those grolsch bottle types that i dont know how to call lol.
    This was my first time batch priing and it was quite simple so ill keep doing it that way.
    Tx a lot for the suggestions and comments.
     
  11. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Kegging is also a nice direction to take if you have the means (space, and money). It sure is nice to fill one keg instead of 50 bottles. No capping. Sanitation is so much faster.
     
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