Has Craft Beer Jumped The Shark?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by t4h2c0, Sep 22, 2015.

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Has Craft Beer Jumped The Shark???

  1. yes, years ago

    5.1%
  2. yes

    21.1%
  3. not sure

    9.5%
  4. no, not yet

    24.8%
  5. hell no

    39.5%
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  1. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah

    No. Craft beer has arrived
     
  2. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Ok I'm bored now.
     
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  3. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Same, I just don't equate selling out to doing something wild and unexpected.
     
  4. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
    Trader

    well rogue jumped the shark a long time ago but few other breweries actually took the plunge with them thank god
     
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  5. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Pooh-Bah (2,092) Aug 16, 2009 South Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    if you do something wild and unexpected just for attention then you are selling out. if that's how you started out, whether as a person or a brewery, then it's not. but if out of the blue you start doing crazy shit then you're doing it for attention (aka interest or profits).
     
  6. Sir_Whats-his-face

    Sir_Whats-his-face Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2015 Oregon

    Beer in general is pretty cheap in my state, so I'm can't complain. Great beer is still almost always cheaper than great wine or great whiskey, and I haven't tried a macro beer I thought was worth buying.

    Don't like gimmicky beer? Don't buy it; somebody else probably does like it, and they're welcome to it. Same goes for expensive beer. If you keep spending too much money on beer you don't like, that's your problem, not mine.

    And screw y'all, I'm glad it's pumpkin beer season.
     
  7. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

  8. FanofHefe

    FanofHefe Pooh-Bah (2,217) Feb 13, 2010 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah

    This.
     
  9. halo3one

    halo3one Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2014 Georgia

    Sometimes (and more often lately), yes...but not always. As long as Victory at Sea, 1050, and Founders RIS or Breakfast stour are readily available and maintain quality levels, I'm content.
     
  10. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I suppose 'going mainstream' and 'selling out' are sometimes but not always interchangeable. When I hear 'selling out' I think of all the bitching when metallica started making music that was LESS wild and unexpected... oh well, we're way off topic... carry on everyone.
     
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  11. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah

    How will the market share change now that the big boys are jumping in?

    ABInBev has acquired Elysian, 10 Barrel Brewing, and Blue Point Brewing Company. Also, ABInBev has owned a third of Craft Brew Alliance for the last few years and also acquired Goose Island. Lagunitas just entered into a partnership with Heineken and Firestone Walker is partnered with Duvel. Stone is becoming or is one of the big boys as they go global. So I don't believe the big boys need to come back, they just need to join in, and apparently they are.
     
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  12. Phil-Fresh

    Phil-Fresh Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2015 California

    Not sure craft beer has jumped the shark, but I have noticed a lot more breweries experiment with adjuncts and/or barrels before nailing traditional styles.
     
  13. youcantmakeme

    youcantmakeme Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2015 California

    I'll have to agree with everyone who posted.
     
  14. TheWiltChamberlainofipas

    TheWiltChamberlainofipas Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2015 Oregon

    He'll no. Keep an open mind. I try think about when I just got started and I was enjoying everything I tried. Sure now things have changed, but I try not to nit pick and remember what my mom said and if you can't find anything nice to say. . .
     
  15. PourMore

    PourMore Crusader (462) Oct 4, 2014 Florida

    If you are asking whether the industry has gotten gimmicky, yes. Not everybody who makes weird/silly/crazy beers is doing it as a gimmick though. Some just love beers and want to experiment.

    If you are asking whether the industry has gotten gimmicky as an attempt to keep people's interest, then no. No way, interest is at an all time high, and there is no need for the industry as a whole to create marketing ploys just to get more customers. However, as an inevitable consequence of the great/growing number of breweries, anyone who wants to get bigger than purely local is forced to "be unique" or "stand out", and it is much easier to accomplish that feat with a gimmick than to achieve truly excellent beer.
     
  16. turbotype

    turbotype Savant (1,035) Nov 5, 2013 California

    Some breweries have jumped the shark for sure. But as an industry my opinion would be NO.
     
  17. sinkas

    sinkas Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2008 Australia

  18. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    Jumping the shark suggests ridiculousness and a decline in quality. I would agree with white noise but not jumping the shark.
     
  19. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    When the number of breweries exceeds the number of wineries in this country I may reconsider this conversation...
     
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  20. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah


    I think this is a good point.

    Same with points about relatively few new breweries failing. (They aren't all, or almost all, making great beer - there are other reasons why they aren't failing even though they may not be making great beer).

    I take the jumping the shark phrase to mean that novelty things are being done that is indicative of a decline in quality. Much of what is all too often respectfully called "innovation" speaks to this quite loudly. Also I also think there's a lot of mediocre places opening up and staying in business, so overall yes there's something to be said for quality in that context, especially given how much they're charging for less than great product. There's far too much that is uncritically accepted.
     
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