I dont understand: distaste for hops

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beernewbie285, Sep 24, 2015.

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  1. beernewbie285

    beernewbie285 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2015 Kansas

    So the other day i was reading a thread about hoppy beers and how some people think they are a fad or that its becoming too commercial as a lover of certain hoppy beers i dont understand and heres why. Most of the people im surrounded by and know some of which enjoy craft beer cant do the DIPAs or the triple IPAs which are some of my favorites. I can understand why they are an acquired taste much like Imperial Stouts are for others, of which I have not had any i would ever buy again. So I would consider myself still relatively new to the craft beer world although i have been drinking them solely for the past couple years i have only recently become more involved and obsessed you could say( i will start home brewing soon) and i am looking into universities that have brewing degrees. So the real question is: Why do some more experienced beer aficionados have a distaste for the so called hop sensation?
     
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  2. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    As you pay more attention to the community, and not just the beer itself, you'll notice that hoppy beers get a hell of a lot of attention. It is unusual that you say you don't know a lot of people who like hoppy beers. IPA is by far and away the most popular style of beer (outside BMC light lagers). Brewers are obviously aware of this and so they produce more IPAs and DIPAs - they sell better than other styles. The reason this annoys many beer lovers is because this means that other styles are less available in the market.
     
  3. beernewbie285

    beernewbie285 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2015 Kansas


    I can understand that. There are other styles i like that i do find a bit harder to get. But i will say that your right the staple of any brewery is the IPA, but i dont think it diminishes the the style its self.
     
  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I think the over-abundance of IPAs has diluted the style credibility tremendously -- especially the ones that are only so-so and the ones that taste like any other IPA down the shelf (which could be redundant, but you get my drift).
     
  5. didgeboy

    didgeboy Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2006 Washington

    Over hopping beer is the equivalent of new oak used with wine. While a little can help shape and round flavors a lot, i.e. 100% new oak barrels, is overpowering and reduces an otherwise complex wine to a one dimensional wine, with little in the way of fruit and balance. Same with hops. When overused, you get a beer that tastes like nothing but hops. Great for some but not so great if you like your beer with a bit more balance and nuances. There will always be those people that like big, bold, in your face flavors, no worries. Everyone should drink what pleases them but don't be afraid to stretch your palate once in a while and challenge your taste buds.
     
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  6. beernewbie285

    beernewbie285 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2015 Kansas

    I also agree with you to a point. I have had a few that i thought this taste like any other, which is why i stick to the doubles more often than not, but there are ones that i find exceptional. But thanks, i just really wanted to hear from people on the matter, and instead of people just disliking it rather just explain to me the reason. I appreciate it.
     
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  7. beernewbie285

    beernewbie285 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2015 Kansas


    I completely agree, my goal each week is to atleast try one new beer that i have never had whether it be a style i enjoy or one i have never had but i will admit that when i get that one i have never had i also pair it with one i know i thoroughly enjoy.
     
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  8. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    I wouldn't say it is always a distaste but many have a greater appreciation of styles/beers with more nuance and finesse. Many of these have been around for decades and perhaps much longer.
     
  9. beernewbie285

    beernewbie285 Initiate (0) Sep 1, 2015 Kansas

    That makes sense. But what would you or they consider a beer with more nuance and finesse?
     
  10. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Touching on some of the points made by others - with so many on the market, IPA is no longer 'reliably good'. If you pick a new one up off the shelf, there's now a greater chance that it's not that great. The brewer just brewed another IPA because they knew it would sell.

    Also, it's not the beer itself that many lament, it's the unfair amount of attention it receives.

    Full disclosure. I LOVE them. I also am a stout fiend.
     
  11. fearfactory

    fearfactory Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Massachusetts

    Don't mistake distaste for burn out, like when they killed your favorite song by playing it EVERYWHERE that summer. We're bored to death of IPAs.
     
  12. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    FTFY
     
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  13. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    Curious, for those who are tired of the IPA craze, what would you like to see become the next big thing?
     
  14. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
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    Individual hoppy beers tend to be fads. Certain hops and hopping methods tend to be fads. See the current craze for turbid IPAs coming from NE.
     
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  15. fearfactory

    fearfactory Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Massachusetts

    Why be married to one style when you can get plenty of solid strange out there? This is why I drink seasonal, the OP should be drowning himself in SN Oktoberfest and any German originals. IPAS will always be around.
     
  16. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    Back when I first started my beer journey (as an immature beer consumer), if something was bitter, I'd immediately dismiss it as "who would drink this" and pour it satisfyingly down the drain.

    New Belgium's Ranger comes to mind. I rated 1's on that at first, let my (now ex) wife try it, and she hated it, and I said "people are crazy".

    A bit later on, I decided to start giving APA's and IPA's a chance, starting with the more mild stuff. I gradually warmed up and while I still dislike IPA's and DIPA's, I can respect them. I also review them because well, they're beer. I re-reviewed Ranger after 3 years and surprisingly quadrupled my rating. It just takes time and a developed palate. Also some maturity. Just because it's bitter doesn't mean it's bad. In fact sometimes the opposite is true.

    On the flipside of the coin, I hate the people that have "matured immaturely", and now diss classic American Adjunct Lagers. I mean c'mon, guys...it all has its place. Rolling Rock isn't going to taste like Ranger, and you shouldn't expect it to. Quit giving 1's just because it's not as character-driven as the more expensive "crafts". :rolling_eyes::wink:

    Bottom line : Enjoy beer, expand your horizons.
     
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  17. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    All styles, not just one fad. Yeah, it sounds trite, but why does good beer have to be defined by one style? My tastes run to what I'm in the mood for -- sometimes it's a good APA, sometimes a Porter, sometimes a Hefeweizen -- I like the opportunity of choice, but sometimes I feel like the IPAs (and DIPAs) are starting to over-run the shelves.
     
  18. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    I wouldn't quite say that the "staple" of any brewery is the IPA. It's not the finish line, it's not the starting point - it's a style, and that's all. How well or poor a brewery does an IPA has no profound effect whatsoever on how good the brewery is. Take Deschutes for instance, their flagship beer is the Black Butte Porter. They stake their name on that beer, and it's pretty fantastic. (fwiw and to tie in, their IPAs aren't bad either)

    Try not to get stuck on rigid formalities or popular opinions. Form your own, go against the grain, drink what you like. But don't be afraid to explore.
     
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  19. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    I read about more love for IPAs than hate from any level BA.
    Guinness has put out an IPA. That is fairly "commercial". And I would say that most people who don't drink beer could tolerate an Imperial Stout but not a rip your tongue off triple IPA.
     
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  20. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

     
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