Winter Hop Growing Op.

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Rcazneaux, Oct 7, 2015.

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Will it work?

  1. yes

    40.0%
  2. No

    60.0%
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  1. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Can you grow me some good strawberries in the winter too?
     
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  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think what this comes down to is that these plants have an inner biological programming that tells them to grow and to produce flowers/seeds so that they can procreate and have survival of the species. Once that process is complete, the plant's programming will cause it to go dormant in the case of a perennial, or to die in the case of an annual plant. Some perennials will die back to the ground (but the roots will survive), but some just 'reboot' until dormancy is complete (trees). If winter gets in the way of this process before flowers/seeds are produced, then dormancy is forced upon the plant (or death in the case of an annual) and the procreation cycle will restart from the beginning when climatic growing conditions bring the plant out of dormancy.

    If you fool that plant by placing it in a greenhouse, I think it will still go dormant eventually after those flowers/seeds are produced to completion. What I'm not so sure about is whether the plant has the capability to continue to produce if those flowers/seeds are picked before maturity which causes the plant to continue to try to make more of them because the process is not complete. But are hop cones complete enough in the maturation process to allow the grower to harvest them before maturity and force continuous production? I don't know, but I doubt it.
     
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  3. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    I'm glad you put this to a vote. Because my opinion should trump science. I personally think hops could grow in the Arctic Circle if only someone had the dedication.
     
  4. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Pooh-Bah (1,710) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina
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    Grow It like people grow cannabis indoors with high pressure sodium bulbs ....
     
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  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I think if you are looking for fun little project as a sort of joke you are on the right track. I think if your goal is hops you are in first class seating on the train to disappointment.
     
  6. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

    The hops are moved inside at night to stay warm.
     
  7. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

    I view it as fun but not a joke. It's a way to possibly begin new plants several months before spring and have an established root system before anyone else even puts their rhizomes in the ground. Im sticking with it so we shall see!
     
  8. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

    Wouldnt that be nice to have an extra few hundred dollars laying around for that kind of stuff? Ill just stick to to 12W on my windowsill and see how that works haha
     
  9. derailment

    derailment Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2010 Ohio

    I've been moving/transplanting/propagating hops in the fall since the late 90's. The first time was a situation where I had to dig one up to open up a spot one fall, and didn't want to throw the plant away. I buried it in a shallow trench with some leaves thrown over it for insulation from the cold. The next spring when I went to dig it up to see if it had survived, it was pretty much rooted solid? Maybe what a lot of folks don't understand is that they'll produce a ton of roots when planted in the ground in the fall which gives you a tremendous head start for the next season. The soil is still very warm (from a root growth perspective) and the rooting will continue until the soil freezes, then will commence once it warms back up to initiate more growth in the spring. Hoppy experimenting~
     
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  10. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    ive done it from rhizomes a grow lamp and a plastic dome to recapture the moisture from watering and return it back into the soil. got about a foot growth before placing them in the ground and training them up a line of jute post frost. a lot of hassle for a first year yield.
    I would place the rhizomes in the ground now while there is still plenty of warmth and let them hang out until spring.
     
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  11. HoppedChef84

    HoppedChef84 Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2015 Rhode Island

    oh yeah, it totally wouldn't be cost effective...but if you get rich and have some free time..you're all set!
     
  12. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

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    (10/15/2015)
    The hop seems to be growing much slower now and I finally received my grow light so hopefully it gets the light it needs now.
     
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  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I think you'll have to add 6 extra minutes of grow light each day to fool that plant into thinking that the days are getting longer. Those plants are pretty smart about their mission in life. :wink:
     
  14. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

    I'm just going to throw her right into the 24 hr lighting scenario. I read some good stuff about 24 hr lighting.
     
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  15. Rcazneaux

    Rcazneaux Initiate (0) Jul 3, 2015 North Carolina

    Wow! My hop plant has been exploding with growth lately. It now has a side branch that is growing up one of the sticks that I put in the pot. Doesn't seem to be showing any signs of slowing down!
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