I need some advice on a saison recipe

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  1. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    What is a replacement for the sorachi then?
     
  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Lemon Drop and Southern Cross are both lemony. LD is lemon and herbal. SC is lemon and dank pine.
     
  3. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    Just my luck, my lhbs carries neither of those hops
     
  4. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    If you culture the Dupont dregs, or use the WLP565 + WY3724 combo, you should get a fair amount of lemon esters w/o any help from the hops.
     
  5. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Interesting, with Dupont dregs, I get some "acid" flavors, but nothing I would describe as lemon. This is fermenting in the low 70s usually. What temperature has gotten you lemon? Underpitch maybe?
     
  6. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Mid 70s. Got it from @Naugled Averagely Perfect Saison as well.
     
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  7. AndrewNations

    AndrewNations Zealot (645) Aug 16, 2009 Louisiana

    Pretty awesome to randomly check a BA forum and see folks talking about our beer. Thanks for the support. I’m assuming you are talking about the fourth iteration of Born in a Barn? We change it every time but its always a Saison. If you had it in the past two months it was 4.

    Here is the recipe

    78% Pils

    10% White Wheat

    5% Rolled Oats

    3% Acidulated Malt

    Perle for bittering and Mosaic in the WP. Yeast was 3522 but 3711 would be fine as well. We used about 350 lbs of Apricot after fermentation slowed down. Ended just over 5%. Dry and crushable.

    Let me know how it comes out of if you have any more questions. Cheers.
     
  8. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    Yes, It was last friday that I had it. Amazing beer. The brewery was awesome. Thanks for the recipe.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    First I want to thank @AndrewNations for participating in this thread discussion and openly sharing his recipe.

    He made mention of: "Yeast was 3522 but 3711 would be fine as well." I agree that either of these yeast strains could be used I just want to share my opinion that the resulting beer would be rather different between these two yeast strains.

    I have brewed with 3522 and it produces a nice combination of fruity and spicy flavors. Here is how Wyeast describes this yeast (which is consistent with the beers I have homebrewed using this yeast): "This strain produces a beautiful balance of delicate fruit esters and subtle spicy notes, with neither one dominating." The other attribute of 3522 is that it is moderately attenuative so the resulting beer will not be dry; it will have some body.

    Wyeast 3711 produces spice dominant flavors (e.g., pepper) with just a hint of citrus in my experience. The other feature of 3711 is that it is an extremely attenuating yeast; the resulting beer will be very dry.

    Cheers!
     
  10. AndrewNations

    AndrewNations Zealot (645) Aug 16, 2009 Louisiana

    True. I should have mentioned that. I was surprised how well 3522 attenuated. We pitch big and kept it warm so Im sure that had something to do with it. Nothing like 3711 though. We use 3711 pretty often. 3522 with Brett is money. You get fruit from the yeast and tons of sugar left for the brett to eat up.

    Dry hopped low abv Saison bottle conditioned with brett = my happy place.
     
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  11. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    @AndrewNations I tasted my born in a barn clone attempt yesterday. I did a two hour mash at 145 degrees. The OG was 1.055 and the FG is 1.003. I liked how it tasted and I couldn't find fresh apricots so I am leaving it as is. It tastes close enough to yours to keep me from driving up to shreveport every weekend (4 hour drive). Thanks again for the help. I put a gallon of it in secondary with brett. I'm looking forward to how the brett version turns out. I may try this beer next fall with muscadines.
     
  12. AndrewNations

    AndrewNations Zealot (645) Aug 16, 2009 Louisiana

    Awesome. Nice and dry!
     
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  13. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    "The other attribute of 3522 is that it is moderately attenuative so the resulting beer will not be dry; it will have some body."

    "The OG was 1.055 and the FG is 1.003."

    "Awesome. Nice and dry!"

    :grinning:
     
  14. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I had a vial of brett ready to go if it wasnt dried out. I think my mash temp helped that out
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Yup, the fermentability of the wort will drive this aspect.

    Cheers!
     
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