Falstaff. What was it like?

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  1. JimBarton

    JimBarton Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2012 Texas

    I took a little time and read about the history of that once proud beer..Not ever having tried one, was it your typical macro or did it bring something else to the table? Seems the brains behind the brew was it's own worst enemy from a business perspective...
     
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  2. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    It tasted a lot like Bergermeister or Hamms. Which isn't saying a lot.
     
  3. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    wow, it was like any other beer in Texas I had. bitter, bland, watery, fizzy. Lets see we had, Pearl, JAX, schiltz, Falstaff of course, Hamms (clear blue water), etc, Imports Coors. Then your standards OF BMC at the time. and others of course. It reminds me of present day Busch beer, its that bad.:slight_frown:

    There was so little good beer then, no 1 knew any better. We did get some imports then of course, mainly Canada.
    Hell I used to Drink lion's brew. Or Lowenbrau, I drank the dark. or St Paulie girl dark. Ballantine's was around but for some reason I never tried it, weird.
     
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  4. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Had it now and again in the mid 1970's, when your in HS you'll drink anything. Agree about it being like Schlitz, Schaefer, Hamms, no way to separate them by taste. When you wanted high class brew it was Michelob or Heineken. Most guys drank Bud it was the standard, or Colt 45 because malt liquor was "supposed" to get you drunk faster, I usually stayed with 7oz Rolling Rock Pony's at $3.50 a case.
     
  5. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    remember mickey's big mouths?
     
  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Yes, and the Reingold Chug A Mugs. I liked the concept, but hated Mickeys , awful stuff.
     
  7. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    it was all awful stuff. I found wild turkey at a young age and just forgot about those yellow fizzy beers. If it was not dark I did not even try it. I found I enjoyed malt forward or balanced beers more than hoppy ones. Still do.:grinning:
     
  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    "was it your typical macro"

    As others have indicated, pretty much. I think it was a bit cheaper than most of the BMC stuff around at the time, and I think that was the market it was going for (indiscriminate beer drinkers who were trying to save a little money - which included a fair number of consumers back in the day).

    I remember you could get bottles of Falstaff (poured into a cup of course) at Giant games at candlestick back in the 60's. I think my dad would get it (he wasn't a big beer drinker) because it was typically a bit cheaper then the other swill the hawkers were selling ("ice cold beer, heah.... ice cold bottle of beer. Ice cold Falstaff... get it heah").
     
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  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    The above posts cover the taste of Falstaff Beer - no better, but also no worse than the average light lager flagships of the era. But, as for this comment---

    Well, the owner of Falstaff from the 1970's until his death in the late '80's was Paul Kalmanovitz (who also owned the General, Pearl and finally, Pabst Brewing Companies) and upon his death he was said to be worth a quarter of billion dollars - so he did OK for himself.

    He was the worst enemy of many of the consumers of his brands, his employees, his retirees and the communities where he once owned and later closed breweries. He might hold the record for closing US breweries (never counted them, but it's got to be well over a dozen), many of which he gutted and sent much of the equipment to China.
     
  10. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    wow only a 1/4 of a billion, lol
     
  11. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Falstaff? It sucked.
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Some of his breweries brewed this stuff-
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    but chances are he didn't need to buy it for himself.
     
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  13. claytri

    claytri Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2004 Maryland

    They also brewed light beer too. Once we found out that it was Pearl of Falstaff we usually went for it. Not that it was much cheaper than the labeled beer.

    Basically I saw all of it as a good value at somewhere between $10 a case for Pearl or $8 a case for Beer it all worked out quite well for we poor college students. I found it much better than some of the other alternatives like Meisterbrau or Milwaukee's Best.
     
  14. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    It's depressing to read this. Even way back when, you poor folks on the East Coast were getting over charged on beer prices.

    Out West, we could buy cases of bottled lucky lager for under $5 (I'm almost certain I remember getting it on sale for $2.99 at one point). Not only that, the bottle caps had interesting picture puzzles (I think they're called a rebus?), which helped one gauge one's sobriety (they were pretty hard to figure out if you were completely sober, but were near impossible to solve if you were wasted).

    The beer was completely flavorless, but back in the day, we were so poor, we didn't mind. In comparison to Lucky, Falstaff would have been considered a super premium beer. :-)
     
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  15. claytri

    claytri Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2004 Maryland

    Hey, I lived in Oklahoma then. The BMC floor was $3.00 a 6 pack back in the early 80's so everyone priced off of that.
     
  16. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

     
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Falstaff is clearly the champion of beer jingles, however. No one else had a band the level of Cream sing for 'em. Back when Clapton was worth listening to, and at his peak:
     
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  18. moosiz

    moosiz Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2009 Michigan

    Ive got a couple Falstaff mini kegs my dad saved from back in the day. Cool marketing idea.
     
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  19. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    We used to be able to buy a 6 of Tudor Cream Ale (A&P's house brand) for 89 cents. Except for Ballantine IPA and XXX Ale all the beer back than tasted just about the same.
     
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  20. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I was a fan of it...I had some just before it ceased being made. A bit hoppier than most around at the time, it hit my palate just right but that's me.
     
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