Can we talk about mouthfeel?

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  1. HopBomb515

    HopBomb515 Pooh-Bah (2,277) Jun 15, 2013 New Jersey
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    I haven't see the topic brought up much. Starting out in beer advocacy, the aromas and flavors were the highlight. More and more I'm finding myself craving beers with great mouthfeel. It's an area where everyone will have their own preference, but I find it mattering more to me lately. Every style brings a different preference for me but I have been finding more and more it's how I'm separating the good from the great from the top tier. So yeah, mouthfeel matters. Thoughts and opinions welcome.
     
  2. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Mouthfeel & finish for me is almost equally important as nose & taste. Not sure what else to say...

    Cheers!
     
  3. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    It can make a huge difference, right down to the type of carbonation (conditioned vs forced)
     
  4. LennyOvies

    LennyOvies Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2015 Mexico

    Fairly important, I have had beers that tasted and smelled quite good but were shut down for me by their awful watery mouthfeel.

    I love a full velvety mouthfeel usually found in stouts.
     
  5. Ninjakillzu

    Ninjakillzu Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2015 Washington

    I think mouthfeel matters as well. Who wants a watery thin bodied quad or stout, or a heavy full bodied IPA?
     
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  6. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    It's important to be appropriate to the style. I think the way many people now view it is super over the top. If it's not motor oil, it's watery. That shit can die right now .
     
  7. phillyhops

    phillyhops Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 New Jersey

    Its one of the main differences between the New England ipas (Trillium, Tree House) and the OG vermont ones (heady, sip).
    Improves it considerably in my opinion
     
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  8. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Like wine, where the rating and reviewing coined the phrase, all beverages have a physical oral sensation. With beer, some are like grapefruit juice and others are like chocolate milk. No mystery at all. That's why we love it!
     
  9. Crackerbarrel

    Crackerbarrel Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 New York

    This was the first thing I used to mock about 'pretentious beer snobs' when I first got into craft, and now its the first thing I consider when drinking a stout.

    I cant seem to enjoy one that has a watery mouthfeel (if anyone can convey what they like about a thin-feeling stout, I'm all ears, I don't like living this way).
     
  10. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Agree to an extent as lots of BA's tend to exaggerate these in my opinion. I've never had a watery stout, nor a motor oil one, but I have had a few RIS's that are almost molasses thick and some Stouts that are much lighter bodied than I expected.

    Some examples for me personally:
    • It's not always a bad thing, some of the Belgian beers for example are much lighter in texture than their NA counterparts, often in a very good way too.
    • Malt Forward dark ales are more pleasant when they are thicker and full bodied
    • I dislike Pilsners that don't have a crispy finish, for one it's stylistically correct to have a crisp and bitter finish, and two it tastes way better when it does.
    • Saisons aren't saisons unless they are well carbonated, conditioned and have a light fluffy mouth feel
    • I much prefer bottle conditioning, the smaller and more consistent bubbles create a much nicer, softer mouth feel in the beer. Sometimes, forced carbonation is a bit much, especially for beers like Belgian Blondes and Ales.
     
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  11. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    'Drinkability' :stuck_out_tongue:

    If we're talking IPA, I'd consider Two Hearted to the gold standard. Smooth and easy drinking, but assertive and creamy if allowed to do its thing.
     
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  12. DaverCS

    DaverCS Savant (1,212) Dec 9, 2014 Arizona

    I prefer moderate-high carbonation in my lighter beers (i.e. wheats, IPA's, and pale ales). If it is dark and rich, I want some substance with a lower carbonation; not flat, but more of a moderate-to-low level. Too little carbonation on a lighter beer detracts from the flavor and makes it feel too watery, distorting the flavor of a beer that could be fantastic. Too much carbonation in a thicker beer also makes it feel too watery, but then again, I am a huge fan of viscous darker beers (i.e. stouts and porters). Mouthfeel IMO plays a vital role in the overall taste of a beer.
     
  13. TheDoctor

    TheDoctor Grand Pooh-Bah (3,484) Mar 7, 2013 Canada (QC)
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    Mouthfeel is very important. A lot of people will claim it doesn't exist, or that it and appearance are unimportant in judging/enjoying a beer, but it is an integral part of the act of consuming and savoring a beer.

    Here is an extremely interesting (to me at least) write-up by Randy Mosher about what is involved in mouthfeel, different aspects of it, what to look for in different beers, etc. http://allaboutbeer.com/article/mouthfeel-beer-stealthy-charm/

    Enjoy!
     
  14. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Dry Irish Stouts, if done right with a thin mouth feel but roasty flavour and dry finish can be wonderful!
     
  15. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    I find appearance to be very, very low on the scale of importance. However, I've had a few beers that looked like muddy water and it was a bit of a turn off, one even tasted like muddy water.
     
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  16. youcantmakeme

    youcantmakeme Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2015 California

    I prefer a numb mouth feel after most beers.
     
  17. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,102) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Definitely an important characteristic of any beer for me. I've always felt it should count for more than the 10% it does in the current rating system. If the body, carbonation, or texture is off it can completely ruin the drinking experience.
     
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  18. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Mouthfeel is like a frame for a painting, a great one frames the taste so it can really shine.
     
  19. LennyOvies

    LennyOvies Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2015 Mexico

    This a thousand times. It's laughable to read reviews about people complaining that the blonde ale they had was "very watery".
     
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  20. GOBLIN

    GOBLIN Pooh-Bah (2,676) Mar 3, 2013 Ohio
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    Not sure what I can add to this conversation other than this: I find that . . . Taste, Aroma and Appearance can all be pulled off or considered a success to some degree. But Mouthfeel is something that only the best have and totally sets World Class beers apart from the rest of the pack.
     
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