Looking to get the most molasses possible

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  1. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I have a killer brown ale recipe that i am going to add spices to to turn into a ginger bread beer. Per the wife's request. She wants the molasses profile to be very pronounced as it is in ginger bread. What is the best way to tackle this? I was thinking about adding a little at 5 minutes left in the boil or even at flame out and then add more to the secondary if needed. If I needed to add some to a secondary, I thought about adding X amount and start to bring the temperature down so that the yeast doesn't fully consume the sugar. What do you guys recommend?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If you want to keep the sweetness from the molasses, that will work. And as long as you keg and don't bottle (not even growler fills/gift bottles from the keg), you won't have to worry about bottle bombs.

    But you don't have to add it to a secondary. You can add it right to the keg.
     
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  3. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Sweet, (pun intended); what does molasses do to the flavor if allowed to ferment out? Does it actually contribute to taste such as honey?
     
  4. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    George Washington was a big fan of molasses. The following is his recipe:

    "To Make Small Beer, take a large Siffer [Sifter] full of Bran Hops to your Taste. -- Boil these 3 hours then strain out 30 Gall[ons] into a cooler put in 3 Gall[ons] Molasses while the Beer is Scalding hot or rather draw the Melasses into the cooler & St[r]ain the Beer on it while boiling Hot. let this stand till it is little more than Blood warm then put in a quart of Yeast if the Weather is very Cold cover it over with a Blank[et] & let it Work in the Cooler 24 hours then put it into the Cask -- leave the bung open till it is almost don[e] Working -- Bottle it the day of the week it was Brewed."

    So for a 5 gallon batch, you will need a half gallon of molasses to replicate the molassesness of George Washington's beer.
     
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  5. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas


    The recipe I have is as follows:

    2 row - 76.6%
    cara 60 - 8.5%
    flaked oats - 8.55
    victory malt - 4.3%
    chocolate malt 350 srm - 2.1%
    1.0 oz fuggles @ 60
    1.0 oz EKG @15
    Nottingham Yeast

    How much would molasses should i start out with? Half a gallon seems like a shit load!!
     
  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, it does.
     
  7. macandrewsRIP

    macandrewsRIP Crusader (411) Oct 28, 2007 Massachusetts

    also yes, as much as half a cup of molasses will definitely be noticed. Half a gallon, yes a shitload, but i think you're mixing your amounts, remember, half a metric shit ton equals 4 crap loads, or one Oprah
     
  8. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I used a lb of sugar cane in a belgian and everybody was asking how I got the mollasses flavor into iit. Came out awesome
     
  9. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    A pound at the end of the boil should add a ton of flavor. You could also use it as the priming sugar to get a little extra punch.
     
  10. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for.
     
  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    i remember using molasses many years ago. back when the TNCJOHB was by far and away the only source of info. that long ago.

    while i have no great insight, molasses taught me that moderation is a virtue. so, whatever you think is enough, use half. and not like hops. more is not better with molasses in my experience.
    damn it that stuff is potent.

    let us know your results, because i think molasses has a a place in beer if done right and i don't really know who is doing it right. maybe you.
    Cheers.
     
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  12. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd be most worried about gumming up a dip tube. You might have a hard time diluting molasses into room temp or cold beer.
     
  13. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Are you using regular molasses or blackstrap? Blackstrap only with insane moderation, IMO not at all, but some like it.
     
  14. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I used regular molasses at the end of the boil. However, my wife bout another pound of molasses yesterday but the store only had blackstrap molasses. I was going to try and boil down some in some water and add it to the keg now since i have a problem of no residual molasses.
     
  15. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Blackstrap is some potent stuff. Just be careful and maybe blend a small batch first.
     
  16. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Most molasses has a strong sulfur component (even if it is advertised as unsulfured). Treacle, on the other hand is much smoother and mo betta, IMHO (especially in something a little lighter and less roasty like a brown ale)
     
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