Kane Brewing (December 2015)

I meant issues like no where to park, Kanes neighbors complaining about hundreds of people lining up over night, Kane having an issue with public drinking, etc. I've bought BPT on my phone at work before, 5 mins top.

I'm in the same boat, can't make it till afternoon, no clue if it will last, would hate to drive over an hour to get shut out.

 

Here we go again. Drinking in public is illegal. Kane has requested people not to drink in line. But I guess none of this matters because it is important that people waiting in line at beer releases treat it like a big party. Have some respect for the people who brew the beer you are willing to wait hours in line for. People who drink in line are seriously fucking with Kane's business because as this turns into a shit show, chances of getting the operation shut down increase.

 

I don't understand why they don't just do a lottery. Seems to work well for Black Tuesday.

 

The same can be said about releases on Saturdays. What about the people who can't line up for hours on end and have to work on a Saturday? The time spent placing an online order is 5 minutes. Pretend to take a dump at work if it's that difficult lol

 

Well, if the release is going to sell out (I assume) even if people have to line up super early on a Sunday, which could be inconvenient for a lot of people (for a multitude of reasons), then there surely will be much more people who would try to buy the beer if they are able to buy it online and have a (1-2week?) window to pick it up (this is x100 easier for a multitude of reasons, as stated by everyone above).

This means more people will log on when the tickets go on sale than would have lined up. This means more people will get shut out. It happens all the time that some big event goes on sale at a certain time and the site is not able to handle the traffic and people don't get tickets. If my non-existent math is wrong please feel free to correct me.

All I am trying to point out is that, you could actually have a WORST situation with tickets, even though I would much rather buy the tickets from the comfort of my office's restrooms then wake up early on a Sunday.

 

another plus is they would make way more $ with tickets I would assume.

 

Finback will be crickets too for Oscillation 002 and BQE.

 

They did it at Bullfrog too, and that's next door to the Williamsport Police. People are just dumb

 

Good, let's keep it that way. BA BQE is as good as it gets.

 

I'm another vote that an online ticket sale would be the best way and keep the limits low. The last release was horrible. Not to mention 12 days from Christmas isn't really the best timing. This gives everyone a fair shot.

 

I think I'll be there with the crickets

 

I hate to say it but I agree with this. The convenience of grabbing tickets online draws many more folks than a traditional line & thus increases the pool of people you are competing for bottles with. Especially if they have a week or two to pick it up. Whatever cheapo server hosting the ticket sale will inevitably crumble under the sudden load & many will be shut out.

Meanwhile if you get up early enough & grab a good spot in line (I know this sucks & is not for everybody), you are pretty much guaranteed to get your allotment as opposed to playing "http request roulette" against everyone else. That being said, maybe a lottery wouldn't be so bad.

 

Clearly everyone saying Tickets would not be good have never bought anything from Alesmith's BPT's onsale.

 

You and me both. Plenty of space to sit and enjoy beer and get what I am looking for!

 

I personally am not saying that tickets can't be good. Those that have experience and are setup from the jump to support it tend to do fine (your Alesmith example, Bruery, etc). I'm just saying that in my experience, I've seen releases go very poorly due to a brewery putting on a rushed attempt at doing ticketing their first time due to public pressure. It's not a magic bullet to cure all woes if executed poorly.

The flipside is that they would only get well versed in this type of system (& figure out their limitations) by actually doing it. Could be the programmer in me but their largest release might not be the ideal time to "test things out".

 

I'm always totally surprised by deals like Alesmith where they allow proxy. Just do tickets with in person pickup available over a week or so.

 

Yes, tickets work fine a lot of the time, but that is because the demand does not exceed the supply right when the tickets go on sale. (example; Alesmith and Bruery). HOWEVER, when the demand does exceed the supply, which i think is more likely to happen if you have online tickets rather than waiting in line on specific day and a pickup window (+ reasons listed before), then things can go to shit very quickly. There is even a nice 30 page Alesmith thread talking about the tragedy of the Velvet BPT ticket sale for reference, where i am sure hundreds of people can tell you their thoughts on BPT and such.

The fact that you and a lot of people are saying they want an online ticket sale just proves my point that it could actually lead to a bigger shit show (and trust me, I want online ticket sale to!)

 

Just because you use a service like BPT for ticketing - doesn't mean Kane has to allow proxies. there are other breweries that use BPT or Eventbrite and they explicitly state "No Proxies allowed/Name on ID must match name on ticket". it's really not that big a deal. and if someone buys tix from let's say, California and decides they want to come pickup their ANTEAD - well, good for them for having the income/time off of work to do so, lol.

 

...and people will also be upset before they even do what they decide to do...