A Barley Wine for Every Day

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  1. Thecalmdrinker

    Thecalmdrinker Zealot (659) Jun 27, 2015 Montana

    Well, This other beer website has 'Brown Shugga' as a Barley Wine... So I guess that. : P
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I just had this as well, and posted on New Beer Sunday:

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    Lawson's/Otter Creek Double or Nothing

    Aroma starts with sweet brown sugar and caramel, raisins, a very slight floral/spicy hop quality, maybe some almond. Not too much in the maple department, but that's the way that ingredients like this (or honey) usually go once fermentation has had it's way. First sip brings on the brown sugar and nuts in a big way. Bitterness is present, but just enough to keep it honest. The finish settles on some surprising toastiness, and maybe, just maybe, I am starting to notice the maple flavor.

    After a while that brown sugar quality begins to morph into a nice amber rum (the wood coming through, I suppose), and thankfully the bitterness starts to assert itself a bit. I'm enjoying it more as I get further into the glass and the beer gets warmer. Still, it is not as richly melanoidin-malty as I prefer, and it relies too heavily on caramel. And if you were expecting a beer reminiscent of maple nut butter you'd be coming to the wrong place. What it does seem to have going for it is a nice silkiness in texture, and good enough execution to avoid being a sugary mess. Initial impression seems to be in the B+ range (3.65)
     
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  3. tripledbrew

    tripledbrew Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2011 Kentucky

    old foghorn
     
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  4. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You called?
     
  5. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Interesting that the commercial description claims that Brown Shugga started as a failed attempt to brew Old Gnarlywine.
     
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  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Thanks for this. Bonus points for Buck Owens. What about it made you think it wouldn't be your kind of thing?
     
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  7. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    @zid How is your liver doing?
     
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  8. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You're scaring me.
     
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  9. MaltheadWeirdo

    MaltheadWeirdo Devotee (310) Nov 18, 2015 Pennsylvania

    About that... if I enjoyed Brown Shugga, would I be OK with Bigfoot? The only two self-professed barleywines I've seen in local stores until recently* are Bigfoot and Blithering Idiot. I enjoyed Blithering Idiot for what it was, although I realize that there are probably more complex brews out there, but I'm a bit scared of Bigfoot because it's supposed to be super-hoppy. Is it much more hoppy -- more importantly, much more bitter -- than Brown Shugga?

    *Recently one store got mass quantities of Uinta Anniversary Barleywine for some reason -- the only other Uinta beers I ever see are Baba and occasionally Dubhe. Reviews tend to say it has lots of bitter hops, so I've avoided it so far.
     
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  10. VTBrewHound

    VTBrewHound Pundit (831) Jan 5, 2013 Vermont

    I would just say you can pretty much drop the microphone on that lineup @zid. Nice and cheers!
    Gotta love the barleywines.
     
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  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Glad you liked it!

    To answer your question, it just seemed like it would be more gimmicky than well thought out. I guess that part turned out to be true :slight_smile:, but it was drinkable in the end.
     
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  12. Thecalmdrinker

    Thecalmdrinker Zealot (659) Jun 27, 2015 Montana

    Sorry, I can't really help you with your question, since I have not tried Bigfoot. You should try asking that question in this site, though. I'm sure someone will be able to help. Good luck, and Cheers!
     
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  13. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I don't want to hijack your thread, but I believe this is semi-related/might give you an idea for some more beer to drink.

    @jesskidden, @steveh

    I tagged those guys as well because they had mentioned these recently.

    Yesterday I went to a local liquor store and the owner was there and invited me to crack some cellared beer he had. We drank a 2003 Samiclaus which was outstanding, reminded me of an aged Bigfoot.

    Speaking of Sierra Nevada, he was also selling 2008 Celebration, we didn't crack it at the store, but I picked one up. I had this one this afternoon and it was also very good. I had a fresh Celebration yesterday on tap as well. The 2008 was almost like a Bigfoot Light, still a fair hop presence which is impressive for 7 years old. The malt was quite sweet, but drinkable, not cloying.

    He also cracked a 2007 Old Foghorn I believe, it was a 7 oz. bottle. This tasted a bit oxidized, no way near what the Samiclaus was.

    Finally, I also picked up a 2007 Thomas Hardy's. The review on this one is to be determined...might go grab a few more Celebrations just to age, maybe another to drink :wink:...although I do believe I have a bunch in my own personal cellar as well.
     
  14. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    This is a great brew. I measure a brew on will I purchase this again or not. This one was on my purchase again realm. Plus I like the bottle. The booze was also well hidden on this offering...I wish I could get more of it.
     
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  15. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    BigFoot fresh is like a Caramel Rich DIPA (Caramel, Citrus and Pine Resin) and also is bitter as a Muv. When Sierra Nevada puts down an IBU #, it's no joke. So in answer, Yes.
     
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  16. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    I really like Thor's Hammer, especially with a year or two on it.
     
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  17. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Here's a personal favorite. Not barrel-aged, and fairly hoppy fresh. However, nicely evolves with a few years on it. I have heard that it's making its way down from Canada, but not sure if it's available out that way.

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  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Yes, Bigfoot is quite different from Brown Shugga in the bitterness department.
     
  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I've got one Samichlaus bottle hanging around, and I didn't want to open it for this thread... but, in a few days I will be at a place that might have it on tap, and if it's meant to be then I will have a glass of that lager at the bar.
     
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  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I'd get more if I could, but I'm not counting on it.
     
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