Rating beers offered in Nitro, cask, etc.

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  1. Masters

    Masters Savant (1,217) Mar 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    I was curious, how everyone who rates here on BA goes about rating a beer that is being served in a different form. Do you rate a beers general entry, even if it is being served a different way? I wonder if down the line there will be a separate way of rating based on this. Its a grey area as its essentially the same beer, but being served for example nitro changes the look, smell, taste, and feel. Some beers are good on nitro while others can be a disaster. What are your thoughts on how to handle this?
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    I ignore the method of dispense except to mention it and perhaps explain how I think it may have impacted my review.

    Once upon a time this site did provide for different review categories: e.g., on tap, bottle, cask, etc. That was changed some years ago after evidence built up that some folks were abusing it. So now all are lumped together.
     
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  3. teraflx

    teraflx Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2013 Arizona

    If I write a review, I will post in the review what method I had it by. If I just do the ticks, then obviously I do not have any way of distinguishing it.
     
  4. Masters

    Masters Savant (1,217) Mar 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    I don't know I just cant seem to justify lowering a beers rating especially if its dramatically, based on it not working out in a form that is not how the base beer is typically meant to be enjoyed. I feel like it should be treated separately somehow.
     
  5. tylerstravis

    tylerstravis Pooh-Bah (2,487) Feb 14, 2014 Colorado
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    With Nitro it evens out... Taste rating goes down and feel rating goes up.

    Cask though, love me some cask!
     
  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    The brewery is a willing participant in the method of dispense. So I'll rate/review it as it is. However, if I know I don't like a particular dispense method (e.g., Nitro) then I either don't have it that way or wait to do the review with a different serving.
     
  7. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Problem is that very often the beer in the cask isn't the same as that in a bottle or can.Very often the bottled/canned version is brewed to a higher ABV to offset the dumbing down resulting from this bottling/canning.Compare Adnam's Broadside, cask 4.7% ABV , bottled 6.3% ABV as an extreme example.
    You will often see the point made that a bottled beer is only a pale shadow of the same beer in cask. That's perhaps overstating things but it's basically true. Another problem is that cask ale changes by the day. It develops flavour nuances and flavour depths which aren't there in a bottle but then of course there is a peak followed by decline.The point where you catch it and write a report is quite sigificant.The drinking quality is as much dependent on the patron's skill ,cellaring and at which point you bought the beer as it is on what the beer was like when it left the brewery.
    It's an attempt to pin down a moving target.
     
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