Bourbon County Coffee 2015 - Gusher?

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  1. jimmyr78

    jimmyr78 Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013 Missouri

    I opened a bottle on 12/04 but did not record the batch number. My Untappd check-in was before I had heard about any rumors of infected bottles, so I don't think my brain was affecting my taste buds. Infected or not, it was not a good beer. I did not pick up tart cherries, but rather a very metallic aftertaste, almost like chewing on aluminum foil. I choked it down due to the cost of the beer, but I'm not excited about my other 2 bottles.
     
  2. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
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    Unfortunately, I recently did this with a Xoco Extra Anejo that was definitely way over-carbed, sour and metallic. Haven't cracked any of my '15 BCBCS yet though :grimacing:
     
  3. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    You do realize that AB/InBev is one of the largest corporations in the world. They could issue refunds for every single Bourbon County bottle sold and not even feel it.
     
  4. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    Gee, thank you for clarifying. I was completely unaware, esp with the constant inane posts about how GI is owned by AB/InBev that have dotted this thread. Thanks for all you've added here.

    Of course I realize they can afford it. But I highly doubt they'll do it. It's difficult to manage logistically and it's a great deal of money across a national customer-base. And they have no obligation to do so.

    I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
     
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  5. bowzer4birdie

    bowzer4birdie Grand Pooh-Bah (3,796) Aug 16, 2012 Illinois
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    I've had multiple BCBCS bottles thus far and all have been exceptional. I will pay attention to dates when I open the next ones and report back here accordingly.
     
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  6. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    I think my less than clear wording and your reading comprehension have intersected in such a way that has left you confused.
     
  7. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    To add to the data pool, the one I opened today was:

    17/Sep/15
    1050

    I've had three so far - one a few days after acquisition (gushed but tasted OK), one about two weeks later (didn't gush but was refrigerated, tasted ok) and one today (tasted markedly worse, gushed)

    To my mind these have all tasted less than what they have in years past, but the first two were decent. This latest one was bad. I'm feeling these are all infected. Time will tell.
     
  8. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
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    It's all clear to me now- this is a long con Goose Island is pulling over AB-In-Bev. They infiltrated that big nasty corporation by letting themselves get bought out, and now they released a bunch of infected batches of stout. This forces AB In-Bev to look bad, and forces AB-In-Bev to lose a bunch of money in refunds. It's all just a big initiative by Goose Island to strengthen the craft movement and weaken the devil himself, AB-In-Bev. It's all really brilliant and I can't believe nobody but me sees it.
     
  9. 4truth

    4truth Pundit (806) Jan 30, 2015 Illinois
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    Then they'll offer to buy back the company from a frustrated AB Inbev for pennies on the dollar. Genius.
     
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  10. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
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    It's possible that stock in AB-InBev will plummet so hard after all this that Goose Island will be able to buy AB-InBev. Wouldn't that be fun?
     
  11. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    They have no obligation to replace/refund spoiled product that they sold to consumers?
     
  12. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    No.

    Beer is not like a car.
     
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  13. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    Absurd. Laughable.

    I wish breweries that felt this way would say so. Would help me narrow down my buying options.
     
  14. erushing

    erushing Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2014 Texas

    I don't believe any business is legally obligated to replace/refund any product just because you didn't like it. The beer is technically drinkable, whether it tastes gross to you or not. I'm not saying that's good business practice and nobody else is either. Most people would agree that good customer care would be to refund/replace, but nobody is obligated to do so. This is why the I word is somewhat misleading in dealing with beer. It's not an e coli infection. You're not going to get sick.
     
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  15. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    We may be speaking about different things. I don't think they have a legal or regulatory obligation.

    I 100% agree with you, though, that a good customer service organization would attempt to make it right. We will see. I think it's hard to manage the logistics of refunding all those customers for all those bottles, but they certainly have the money to do so. I don't expect them to, though.
     
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  16. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Have Had 3 BCBCS so far and all have been very good, the coffee was on the bitter side not as mellow as i would like , no over carbonation at all, no tartness really enjoyed them.. the time stamps were 2100-2200.
     
  17. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Are you saying they gushed upon opening them b4 even trying to pour?
     
  18. lateralusbeer

    lateralusbeer Savant (1,222) Feb 7, 2010 North Carolina
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    An infection is spoiled. A product doesn't have to make you sick to be infected. If I crack a fresh bag of dorritos and they're stale, then it's a bad product.
     
  19. RobertColianni

    RobertColianni Pooh-Bah (1,789) Nov 4, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Sacc creates and also reduces Diace with a simple rest. Cerevisiae resting is stable in temperature for a few extra days, whereas Carlsbergensis is raising the temperature roughly 18° and stabilizing for a few days to a few weeks. Cerevisiae is extremely unlikely out of the FV unless some impatient homebrewer is biting too aggressively at the bit. The only likelihood in causing Diace in an ale is Pedio or Lacto being infectious on an uncleaned part of the bottling line including the inside of the bottle or keg itself. If I remember correctly this could cause bonding Polysaccharides thusly making a sickly beer (mucous consistency) as well as a Diace or butter problem. Rampant wild Sacc strains could cause over carbonation and dryness/cloying notes. Rampant Pedio or Lacto specifically could cause over carbonation, sickly, or buttery notes. The thing is, with any yeast remaining, the buttery Diace notes would work their way out after some time and with patience you'll be rewarded. The beer has already fermented out clean. Let her age and breathe upon opening and you'll be safe. Unless your bottle explodes of course.

    By the way, I'm a brewer. I don't see any other professional brewer making any of the above mistakes. Damn sure not at a prolific brewery.
     
  20. siege06nd

    siege06nd Pooh-Bah (2,027) Dec 29, 2009 Virginia
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    Yes. Two of the three I opened straight out of my cellar. Both of those gushed immediately upon opening.

    The third was refrigerated for awhile and did not gush.
     
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