Juiciest West Coast IPA?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by siper, Dec 28, 2015.

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  1. Snubnoze

    Snubnoze Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2015 California

    Same thing around here with all the Cellarmaker goodness. I guess you have to have it to get it. I don't understand why some people on here have such a hard time grasping this descriptor, and to act like it's ridiculous to use given all of the crazy discriptors thrown around out there.

    I don't know about y'all, but I've never smelled a Horse Blanket and thought beer...
     
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  2. Sponan

    Sponan Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Tennessee

    My intention is not to troll. I am not the only member who has pointed out this use of juicy is vague and undefined. An orange does not taste like a mango or a papaya. Which fruits do and do not constitute "etc" in your earlier post.

    Which accepted English language definition of "juicy" are you using:
    Juicy
    adjective, juicier, juiciest.
    1.
    full of juice; succulent:
    a juicy pear.
    2.
    very profitable, appealing, interesting, satisfying, or substantive:
    a juicy contract; a juicy part in a movie.
    3.
    very interesting or colorful, especially when slightly scandalous or improper:
    a juicy bit of gossip.

    So, if people do not have the same definition of a word used out of proper context as you they are wrong?
     
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  3. BravoDawg_WS

    BravoDawg_WS Zealot (597) Jun 6, 2014 New York
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    I don't think fresh AleSmith ipas get enough credit nationally. Maybe because of smaller distro than Stone or Ballast Point
     
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  4. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    And Mosaic doesn't taste like Nelson but both are used in the style of IPA we are discussing. Different fruits have different tastes but there are a bunch of them that can be grouped because of similar traits as we've done here.
     
  5. Snubnoze

    Snubnoze Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2015 California

    The definition he gave was spot on. It's exactly the style that is being discussed, and it's a style that needs a discriptor and Juicy happens to be the one that most people that have steady access to these type of beers agree upon. Like it or not.

    I could go for a pint of Wicked Juicy right about now...
     
  6. Sponan

    Sponan Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Tennessee

    The variety of responses throughout this thread indicate not everyone has the same definition.

    Would someone new to beer know what "juicy" tastes like? Seems like a secret club. You will know it if you have it, but we can't explain it.
     
  7. Snubnoze

    Snubnoze Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2015 California

    Not everyone has had the beers being discussed to have a point of reference, or even read the opening post to understand the question correctly. Some people just straight up have bad palettes too. I've never had a glass of juice and thought malty sweetness and pine.

    This Juicy phenomenon is a new thing. Move out of the way or get run over...
     
  8. dumpman

    dumpman Zealot (600) Feb 6, 2010 Rhode Island

    Alpine duet.
     
  9. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    Again, here you go:

    It tastes like this combination of elements. Just the same as macaroni and cheese tastes cheesy or a combination of pasta, butter, milk and cheese. If you don't know what that combination tastes like, go try it. If you haven't at a basic level tried it or at an advanced level understand what that combination would result in, you can't tell everyone else they are wrong.
     
  10. Masters

    Masters Savant (1,217) Mar 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    I'm sorry some people aren't specific enough for your liking or that you dont understand. I think its rather easy. its the opposite of a piney biter IPA. its a juicy fruity IPA
     
  11. Sponan

    Sponan Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Tennessee

    Of the four words you listed - piney, bitter, juicy, and fruity - only one does not have a recognized definition which could apply to flavor or smell. Guess which one.
     
  12. Masters

    Masters Savant (1,217) Mar 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    You must need more TP for your Bunghole to understand i guess. :confused:
     
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  13. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing Zealot (604) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    In the definition of juicy (that you provided) it has the word succulent in it. So apparently, the word juicy has a lot to do with flavor. I hate to even post this because the whole argument is just plain stupid. Juicy is a flavor and very identifiably.
     
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  14. Sponan

    Sponan Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Tennessee

    What is the flavor of "succulent"? What does it taste like?

    I agree this type of IPA shares a group of similar characteristics. As evidenced by the responses to this thread, not everyone agrees that the term "juicy" means only beer with these characteristics.
     
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  15. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (912) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    I agree with you guys. I do think some of the most recent Cellarmaker stuff is approaching the flavor profile of VT style beers: lower bittering, more tropical, critrus notes, hazier, opaque build, etc. Look at Hop Killah, Purity Supreme, for example, or Hop Slangin.
     
  16. Frobert_Reynolds

    Frobert_Reynolds Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2014 California

    If you are ever in Ventura, visit a small little brewery called Poseidon Brewing and try their Inshore India Pilsner Ale. It's brewed with German Pilsner malt and citra and cascade hops and although it clocks in at 85 IBU, it wasn't overly hoppy for me. This is one of my favorite IPA's and the citra hops give it just enough juiciness to make this one fine beer that you can drink over and over again and find it just as refreshing as the first sip of beer for the day.
     
  17. Snubnoze

    Snubnoze Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2015 California

    Woah! I'm confused, you're gonna have to discribe this better.

    Juiciness?

    "Hoppiness" I could understand...
     
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  18. CyriousBeer

    CyriousBeer Initiate (0) May 7, 2013 New York

    My vote:

    Alpine Exponential Hoppiness
     
  19. Frobert_Reynolds

    Frobert_Reynolds Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2014 California

    The citra hops profile is mango, pineapple, fresh orange, and melon and it comes through in the aroma as well as in the flavor. I don't know what else you would mean by "juicy" if the fruit profiles of the citra hops above don't fulfill the juiciness factor for you but generally when I have an IPA with citra hop it's nicely juicy for me.

    Hope that describes it a little better.

    Cheers!
     
  20. Snubnoze

    Snubnoze Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2015 California

    I got you and agree, just being sarcastic.

    Citra exemplifies Juicy.
     
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