How does a DIPA get wild popularity?

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  1. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Yeah, I tend to just stay quiet about the lesser places. "If you can't say something nice" and all.
    Beyond Comrade, I'd say the best newer places near Denver are Cannonball Creek, Hogshead, Station 26, Call to Arms, Spangalang, and Ratio. Elevation is definitely awesome. Not really "new" but Eddyline out that way is also a favorite.
    Casey is a different discussion altogether, but that's an obvious one.
    I haven't made to Ft. Collins or the Springs lately, but supposedly both are blowing up with new/good places right now.
     
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  2. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    It's fine to disagree, but you've provided zero insight into what exactly you're disagreeing with and why.
     
  3. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    If you read my posts in the thread there was plenty. The hype is almost always deserved. Those beers from HF, Treehouse, Lawsons and Trillium are absolutely better than 99% of the ordinary beers they would be compared to. Hype and scarcity is not driving the lines at Treehouse and HF...the quality of the beer does.
     
  4. Ricelikesbeer

    Ricelikesbeer Maven (1,433) Nov 29, 2006 Colorado
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    Yeah thanks, definitely a few more to try. I've been to a few of those but not Call to arms or Spangalang. Good to know some peeps are liking some of the new ones. I lived downtown for three years and just moved, and I was starting to get a little worried about the scene after a few of the beers I tried and places iv'e been.... a lot of poor new upstarts unfortunately.
     
  5. BeerKarmaNYC

    BeerKarmaNYC Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2015 New York

    Singlecut had some issues early on with consistent quality but I think they've worked it out. I actually bought a bottle of the Half Stack last night and will be sure to try whatever else the bottle when it's fresh, their taproom is also an awesome space. I think at some point people will get fed up with the lines at OH because I agree their beers are great but not ground breaking and I've had a few releases of the Hop Showers that have varied in quality.
     
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  6. slim2043

    slim2043 Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2012 Connecticut

    100%

    I have personally seen this at a few breweries around NE. Someone in the know shares said TH, Trill, HF, Lawson, Alchemist beer w friend. Friend's mind explodes. Friend shows up at brewery the next day. Cycle continues. They get in line for the "hype train". Those who haven't had it yet, hears this from someone who has "you gotta go to <insert NE Brewery>" and they also get in line. Social media has made this grow exponentially faster with trade groups and freedom of information sharing but the beers that truely get hyped (definitely in NE) usually deserve it.
     
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  7. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    It happened that way for me, and everyone else I know who loves beer. I have a house in VT and in MA, and I've never been to Treehouse or HF (though I've had the beers several times thanks to friends, Armsby Abby and other taps in VT). Why? Because both are a royal pain in the ass to get to. Nobody would be doing it twice if the beer wasn't worth it.

    This doesn't mean there aren't beers just as deserving with no hype yet (Prohibition Pig IPA is as good as anything I've ever had), but I hate it when people say that these beers aren't as good as they are made out to be. They are.
     
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  8. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    Tree House could piss in a can right now and people would line up to buy it. When Sap and Juice Machine were released last week, people had NO CLUE what was going to be available until a few hours before they opened. Unless you were going to TH that day to get cans regardless of what they sold or live within 2 hours of the brewery and can drop everything at a moments notice to go buy beer, you didn't get Juice Machine which is something an extremely small percentage of the public had ever tried.

    Who is talking about ordinary beers? Go back and look at what I said, better yet I'll paste it here: "There are plenty of small breweries that are brewing better or at least equal beer to the hyped NE breweries". Which is what I continue to stand behind, there's quite a few in the NYC area alone now that are producing beers on this level that aren't that hard to get.
     
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  9. BltByKrmn

    BltByKrmn Maven (1,349) Jan 16, 2013 New York

    SOME of the beers deserve it, not ALL. Again, that is the problem, a brewery creates a few fantastic beers and because of various factors people go bat shit crazy for everything they put out.
     
  10. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    I really don't know where to begin. The thread is about how a DIPA "gains wild popularity" not how a DIPA become World Class.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm guilty of it myself, I love a good tallboy can. But if you're gonna get off your high horse about the Class breweries you mentioned in comparison to the hundreds (yes, hundreds) of canned DIPAs around the country ( not just your little two-state bubble you mentioned) the 16oz can craze is alive and well.

    And, funny enough, just to bring up the breweries you mentioned, Tree House (edit: you didn't mention TH, sorry) and Lawson's most popular DIPAs are both, for the most part, canned. Trillium is more renowned for its IPAs I would argue (and the few I've had are amazing) and Hill Farmstead is more renowned for its farmhouse and pale ale selection than anything else.

    Was I being a little exagerrated with my post, of course, but there are a lot of canned DIPAs that get the hype train moving, around the country, that probably are a little (or a lot) over the top. As far as I'm concerned, it's not the worst problem in the World and we, as consumers, get to pick and choose what we want. There are certainly worse places than Massachusetts or New York to have those options too so cheers
     
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  11. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    The other thing I'll add, since I can't edit, not to shit on Sam Adams at all, because I thought it was a decent beer, but is it any coincidence they just released a DIPA in a 16oz/4-pack format?
     
  12. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Some of them are really that good, some probably get elevated by some level of unwarranted hype. I dunno, I still fuck with a good DIPA any day of the week.
     
  13. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    There are plenty of things that tastes just as good as the shit people here go ape shit over, but they don't get the hype or following because:

    • They're not rare
    • They spent more than 5 minutes on a shelf somewhere
    • They're not made in VT, MA, or someplace else in the NE
    Anyone denying that scarcity lends itself to inflated reviews is delusional.
     
  14. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    That looks like fucking chicken stock.
     
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  15. jojo2112

    jojo2112 Pundit (882) Sep 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    This is true to an extent, but there are also tons of other beers in that 1% that are much more readily available and just as good. At that point it just becomes a personal preference as to which you prefer. It seems to me the only real difference between a 4.2 on Untappd and a 4.6 is hype and scarcity.
     
  16. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    As soon as people find out that it tastes like tropical fruit but and no hint of beer they will start lining up haha

    I think its beer forums like this and just word of mouth.
     
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  17. MightyTrustKrusher

    MightyTrustKrusher Devotee (387) Nov 5, 2014 Pennsylvania

    What does beer taste like?
     
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  18. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Or the bottom 2 inches of a homebrew carboy after you are finished siphoning the beer off the trub after primary is finished.
     
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  19. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Cant tell if sarcasm or not because internet. I meant it tastes like you might as well just drink orange juice. And i like DIPAs so no hate.
     
  20. DJturnstile

    DJturnstile Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2015 California

    I have a couple bottles aging at home, about 2 years now. I'm not home right now to repeat it word for word, but the label on the bottle says something quirky like, "Bury this beer in your yard, age 100 years and it'll be amazing"
     
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