Do (successful) breweries give a damn?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by pumpkinsmasher, Apr 22, 2015.

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  1. BergBeer

    BergBeer Maven (1,417) Aug 21, 2013 California

    I emailed a bunch of breweries about how to get into the industry the correct way. They all replied within 1-2 weeks and some with in a day or two. They were all very helpful and professional. They ranged form small to large breweries.

    The list included:
    Stone
    Modern Times
    Fat Heads
    Great Lakes
    Green Flash
    Telegraph
    Russian River
    Firestone Walker
    Avery
    Mike Hess
    Alesmith
    Half Acre
    Revolution
    Port Brewing
    Sierra Nevada

    Browine points to Alesmith for being the most informative and Fat Heads for being the funniest/truthful.
     
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  2. papat444

    papat444 Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,961) Dec 28, 2006 Canada (QC)
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    I should hope they do but at the same time ready to do their own thing without being swayed by what's "popular". All about balance. At least that's what i'd do if i had a brewery :wink:
     
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  3. ABW

    ABW Initiate (0) May 26, 2014 Texas

    Email seems to be they way to go. I email Austin BeerWorks probably more than they would like but they always respond timley and respectfully. That's one of the reasons they continue to get my business.
     
  4. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    What have we learned here?
    1. Social media is not the best way to contact most breweries, no matter how much the OP wishes this was the case
    2. Most breweries do not have the resources to dedicate full-time to social media
    3. It's widely agreed and has been reinforced in this thread by people in the brewing industry that email or phone calls are the best way to reach out to them. I'm 2 for 2 on emails BTW and one was to confirm that the brewery knew they had exploding cans. That's not a lot for 10 years of being a beer geek...maybe I'm just low maintenance?
    4. Facebook's new policies for businesses are shitty
    5. Most successful breweries do, in fact, give a damn
    Am I missing anything?
     
  5. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    Right not a big difference but still. Also a refund is available to him he just refuses to travel to the brewery from Milwaukee to get it despite having no problem traveling from MKE to purchase the beers in the first place.

    I get what your saying but if a brewery is trying to make it up to you and you refuse to accommodate them hard for me to side with you and not the brewery especially since I have done this transaction with O'so (returning/exchanging beer) a couple times in the past with ZERO problems despite the fact I don't even own a car, I live about the same distance away as this guy, and both my returns where for a much larger some than his.

    This guy basically wants his d**k s*%ked for having tasted beer he didn't like I think that's what he's unhappy about. And all it took to set him off was an automated response he got from mark's email to notify him that he is away from it for the time being.

    I'm not calling you out or anything but I don't think even fully understanding the situation from both sides makes this guys exchange with O'so defensible.
     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Which they offered him, and he refused.
     
  7. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware


    We will have to agree to disagree. I saw none of his responses as being set off. A little testy certainly. Remember it looks like his 3rd or 4th attempt at communication was responded with a canned away response. I would think any business would see this as unacceptable communication. I would not travel 2 hrs to return beer either. The brewery has no obligation to offer more than they did. However, this seems to be a known problem with the beer. I would not think sending the guy a check is out of line. If this was not a known defect (common complaint) about the beer then no way. Since I actually did not research the problem with the beer, my opinion hinges on the fact that it is a common complaint that the brewery is well aware of. If I bought a barrel aged beer and it was sour (even if pleasantly soured) I would not be happy.
     
  8. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    This post from one of the other threads should clear some stuff up.
    O'so/Funk Factory 4/4 release
     
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  9. thesledge

    thesledge Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2010 Texas

    Just wanted to chime in with a recent experience I had with Ballast Point a little over a week ago. I wrote the local sales rep to let him know that a large quantity of 4 month old Sculpin cans had been sitting on the shelf of a rather large liquor store in Houston. He responded back in under 2 hours and offered to send me some Sculpin for giving him the heads-up.

    Sure enough, a few days later I get a package with a 6 pack of Grapefruit Sculpin (only ten days old!) and a handwritten card, thanking me for my support of Ballast Point. I stopped by that liquor store this past Tuesday, and the entire stock of cans had been replaced with fresh beer. I bought all 3 six packs that were on the shelf.

    This is a shining example of how a business should treat its customers. I was already a huge fan of Ballast Point, but from now on I'll be sure to go the extra mile and spread the Ballast Point gospel to all that would listen. If anyone from Ballast Point is reading this, give James a raise!
     
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  10. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    That thread seems to have the same difference of opinion on how they should handle it as this thread. It seems the info was given to those that complained. Others in the thread seem to think that the presence of acetone in the beer would have been a good to thing to know before they bought it not after buying a beer at a ticketed release party.
     
  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I think they do, I've had issues with NoDa twice and both times they contacted me within two days and fixed the problem. I completely support them in their growing pains.
     
  12. Ipaupaweallpa

    Ipaupaweallpa Savant (1,022) Dec 26, 2014 Alabama
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    Stone emails me back. Always.
     
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  13. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    It's not about how big they are. I've had a question for rinn duin brewery that I asked through their website. They are in toms river NJ. 30 minutes north of me. Small brewery. Never heard back. Some people just can't be bothered I guess
     
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  14. pumpkinsmasher

    pumpkinsmasher Zealot (527) Nov 12, 2013 New York
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    So, I thought I'd provide an update here about my situation that happened with Lost Abbey. I started this thread on April 22 last year.

    On April 30 of last year, I got a PM from someone who works At Lost Abbey. This individual said they felt very bad about what happened and wanted to make it right and offered to send me a box of some stuff. I was really pleased and gracious about this offering and I even apologized for not taking more measures to contact the brewery initially, as I probably should have done so before starting this thread.

    The employee and myself exchanged messages over the course of a few weeks and I was told to email them my mailing address and they would take care of it, which I did on June 1. After not receiving anything by the end of August, I sent a follow-up email just asking if my message was received and that I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in the shuffle. I did get a message back the next day and this employee told me they were glad I followed-up because they didn't get my original message and they asked me to send my address again as they had a box ready to go.

    At the beginning of October, I sent a follow-up note as I had still not received anything. I did not receive a response initially. So I decided to send them a note on BA in early November, just stating again that I hadn't received anything and that I had a sent another email early in October and I wanted to make sure they got that so I sent the message on here. Within a few days, I then received a reply to my October follow-up email from the employee who said that they had their distribution send out a box, but since I hadn't received it, they were checking to see if it was returned or if someone at the warehouse forgot to send it out. They ended the note by saying that either way, they would send out a new box or the existing one would make it to me and they apologized for the delay.

    An additional 2 months later, nothing. So, I give up Lost Abbey. I've already put in too much of my own time. I never received any follow-up or anything and quite frankly, it's sort of uncomfortable to keep following-up. At this point, it's just not worth it anymore. I did want to share the experience though.
     
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  15. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    @thelostabbey
     
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  16. Thecalmdrinker

    Thecalmdrinker Zealot (659) Jun 27, 2015 Montana

    The only ones I have ever contacted (via email) were Ballast Point, and they responded in a couple of days.
     
  17. zestd

    zestd Savant (1,071) Jan 18, 2013 Idaho

    I made a comment about the laughably out of date Stone beers here on BA and was messaged within a few hours by a rep.
     
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  18. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    Yeah lost Abbey gets a thumbs down from me lately.
     
  19. MiloDropsOutofCollege

    MiloDropsOutofCollege Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2015 Colorado

    Is that the "controversy" about the witch on the label?
     
  20. BrewsOverHoes

    BrewsOverHoes Grand Pooh-Bah (3,509) Nov 17, 2013 Georgia
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    As far emails and quick replies, Sixpoint's customer service is awesome along with Great Divide they were both quick and respectful when had issues with an online order or a beer question/issue.

    Also emailed Devils Backbone about a mixed variety 12 pack I bought and 8 of the bottles were their Shwarzbier. Not that I don't love that beer just was expecting an even balance obviously. They were prompt and polite. Said they couldn't send me beer but offered to send me a few glasses and thanked me for letting them know about the issue.
     
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