Bad Trader: Zh78888

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by rooskey379, Jan 27, 2016.

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  1. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

    Well...after many years of trading on this site and other mediums I have, for the first time, been shafted by @Zh78888. He came in with many completed trades with high marks, so I thought this was a no-brainer. To keep the story short and simple, we had agreed on a more-or-less open ended trade that involved him sending 3 growlers of Fonta Flora (pictures below). First package I receive from him was great...but missing the growlers. He left a note stating he would send those out shortly, "his girlfriend and friend kept drinking them" was his excuse. I sent my completed package to him. It arrives safely. He texts me later saying on Wednesday 01/13 he dropped off the package to UPS. A week goes by, no package. 10 days - no package. I call the store he shipped from and they have no record of him shipping a package to me. All the while I am texting him telling him what I am learning. Slowly but surely, no more responses. No texts or updates, no replies on BA, yet he is still posting on the forums!! Snapshots of the pertinent parts of our conversations are below. As you can see, I offered multiple opportunities for him to tell me what was going on, to rectify the situation. @Zh78888, I hope you intend on fulfilling the rest of the trade. We started off on a good foot and things went south unfortunately.
     
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  2. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    If you can post the screenshots without personal info that would be fine.
    Link posted to @Zh78888 profile.
     
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  3. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

  4. MosaicDrops

    MosaicDrops Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 New York

    Sounds like a straight up lie.

    1. He says UPS can provide OP with tracking info based on his phone number. Talk about lazy. The OP shouldn't have to track down this number, @Zh78888 should have provided it or done the legwork to get it for him.

    2. OP does the legwork himself anyway...contacts UPS and they have no pending boxes from him, though they can confirm two other shipments sent by @Zh78888 this month
     
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  5. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    56 Trade feedbacks and this goes down? That's insane.
    So he's still shipping/trading, just not fulfilling his obligation to you then.

    Sounds bogus.

    @Zh78888 You have the opportunity to make this right, but the window is closing. I can't speak for the mods but I reckon if you don't fulfill your end of the trade, you'll get banned and all your positive feedback with it.
     
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  6. knicks19947

    knicks19947 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 New York

    Tough to see this. First time I've seen one of these threads with someone I've dealt with in the past. My deal with Zach had included a single can of NODA Hop Drop (just a side note to the main deal). Shortly after we both shipped, he informed me that UPS had damaged the box and only that 1 can of Hop Drop was destroyed. He intercepted the package locally and ended up surprising me by replacing it with a bottle of Omega Point instead. He was very communicative the whole way and only delayed the shipment by a day or so. Really hope he makes things right here as I had a pleasant experience with him on our last go.
     
  7. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

    Thus why I am so shocked and confused about how this transpired
     
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  8. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I've worked with Zach as well and our deal went off without a hitch.
     
  9. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Maybe if you guys have a phone number to reach him and let him know about this thread?
     
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  10. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Unfortunately I always clear out my inbox when a trade is complete and my FedEx history only goes back 90 days so I can no longer view the label I used to send to him.

    I hope this gets worked out for the OP. Definitely seems like out of the ordinary behavior for @Zh78888
     
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  11. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

    Done
     
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  12. Zh78888

    Zh78888 Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2014 North Carolina

    just now getting on here and seeing this. i can't wait to get my phone back and post some more photos.
     
  13. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Just no personal info please.
     
  14. Zh78888

    Zh78888 Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2014 North Carolina

    @rooskey379 it should be back today. in the meantime i lost my phone bc it turns out someone accidentally took it and i haven't gotten it back yet but i've been contacted at work.

    if we want to display publicly what's been going on that's all well and good, but i hope that @rooskey379 takes this down or that @Preluderl can vouch for this. i've had dealings with several people that have turned into regular trading partners.
     
  15. Preluderl

    Preluderl Pooh-Bah (1,796) Sep 27, 2012 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    As I said before, I'm happy to vouch that I had a good experience trading with Zach and discussing North Carolina beer specifically Fonta Flora. He's always been up front with me.
     
  16. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

    @Zh78888 hey man, you got my beeradvocate handle, my facebook, and other means of communication. I would have liked to be kept in the loop. Regardless, there have been a lot of gaps over the past two weeks, and you've continued to post. Of course this can be taken down once everything is settled.
     
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  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    This won't be coming down anytime soon, unless there's satisfaction on both sides of the party.

    @Zh78888 no need to get defensive- take care of @rooskey379 and this can all move on.
     
  18. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    You're only as good as your last trade, my friend. There are frequently two sides to each story - if you have one, I'd encourage to accept the trade request, make good on the trade agreement, & come back here to explain yourself.
     
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  19. rmank

    rmank Savant (1,117) Mar 26, 2012 South Carolina


    Unfortunately, your credibility based off of past trades can't produce what's owed to @rooskey379 . that task falls solely on your actions now
     
  20. rooskey379

    rooskey379 Initiate (0) Oct 26, 2011 Michigan

    Trade request was accepted by Zh78888 and has left ME a negative feedback remark. So now I get knocked for that
     
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