Chest freezer fermentation chamber questions

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  1. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    Equipment
    Magic chef 6.8 chest freezer
    Inkbird 308 dual stage temp
    Lasso 100 heater
    Basement temp is 59 degrees

    So I did a sample run tonight using my spiedel fermenter and no wort in the freezer. I set my temp at 68 degrees and set the probe inside the empty fermenter. It took 5 minutes to cool it down from 69.2 degrees to 68 and it took 4 minutes to warm it up from 66.8 to 68. I then checked it with my thermopen and it was off 3 degrees with the Inkbird probe. I need to know if this sounds about right under the conditions.

    I had the fan resting on the uppershelf blowing on a angle towards the front of the chest freezer.
     
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  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    My Inkbird runs about 1° below actual temp, expect yours to vary a little either plus or minus. If your thermapen has been calibrated I would use that as a reference point. You really aren't trying to chase air temps though. I suggest you put a 5 gallon bucket of water in the freezer and let it stabilize overnight, then measure with your thermapen. This will tell you what to expect when you add wort (minus the temp rise from fermentation).

    Remember it takes hours to change the temp of 5 gallons of liquid. I don't try and set a "tight" temp range. As long as the heater (or fridge) cycles every hour or so the wort temp will be fairly steady . . . my experience is much less than 1° variation. I use a thermowell and my wort temp barely flinches with an eight degree differential (cooling) in the summertime. If your basement is a steady 59, my guess is maybe a 2 or 4 degree spread will work (the bucket of water should tell you when you nail it). It's possible during active fermentation you'll have the cooling element on to keep a mid-60s range. The key is as long as it cycles every hour or so you'll be good.

    Congratulate yourself for testing all of this before adding the precious wort.
     
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  3. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Running a chest freezer in the 60s is going to take some trial and error. The freezer will.continue to chill well after the compesser turns off. The coils get really cold, so you'll be pulling heat.

    Placement of the probe is critical.. the bottom is colder than the top and the inside walls are literally freezing when running.

    Do some experimenting.
    Also, air temperature will change quickly. Liquid temps not as fast.
    Cheers.
     
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  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Sounds almost perfect for a lot of different beers if it is a steady 59*F
     
  5. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    I will give this a try tomorrow, a question for you how do I calibrate my thermapen? I put it in boiling water and it was 211 so it's off 1 degree
     
  6. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    Not for the beers I like:grinning:
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What's your altitude?
     
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  8. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    So, what are you brewing? A saison or a lager? :rolling_eyes:
     
  9. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Yes, if at sea level (or thereabouts), which is less than 0.5% error. The second test is to make an ice slurry in a water glass. Make sure the ice is packed all the way to the bottom and when stabilized it should read 32 (maybe a hair over). This test point is probably more important that the boiling test. My thermapen was spot on right out of the box.
     
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  10. Alteredstate

    Alteredstate Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2015 New Jersey

    My next beer is a porter and typically I brew Pale ales or IPA's
     
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Do you think a freezer would benefit from having the probe in glycerin?
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I rest my case :wink: ...wish I had a 59*F BASEMENT ...my fermentation chamber gets used mostly for lagering. cheers
     
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