Is this an acceptable restaurant pour?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by inxy, Aug 25, 2012.

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  1. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    It doesnt look like a huge oversized globe, so thats just not right. Delirium is like 7 bucks here, I wouldnt pay 9.
     
  2. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Even with that much head, you could push a few more ounces in there. You got underserved.
     
  3. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    How many ounces of beer were you suppose to get? How many did you get. Until those questions are answered we do not have enough information to answer your question.
     
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  4. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    I'd expect DT to come in about a 10 oz pour, beyond that the amount of head/empty space left in the glass would be dependent on the size of the glass. For example, a 10 oz pour in a 20 oz glass will only fill the glass half way. I'm not necessarily saying that this is what happened to you, I'm simplying pointing out that just because the glass isn't filled to the brim doesn't mean that you got shorted.
     
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  5. CasanovaCummins

    CasanovaCummins Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2012 Nevada

    Did you enjoy it? For less than $10 bucks, it's not terribly way off from the norm. Chalk it up to a night out costing a bit more than a pour at home.
     
  6. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2011 Arizona

    Rip off. Period. Whether you enjoyed it or not. That's what? A 10 ounce glass? So you get like 5 ounces for $9? Screw that. They need to top it off and scrape off some head. You need to get a pretty full glass. If you said something and she made up BS excuses that just cuts like 5% off the tip, IMO
     
  7. dmoser

    dmoser Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 California

    thats more than 5oz of liquid
    you may have been shorted, but figure it as a dollar per ounce and cut and paste your losses
     
  8. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    You were robbed inxy. The woman was talking out of her ass. Chalk it up to experience but if someone tries to reem you again be firm and don't give an inch in the most tactful way you can.
     
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  9. kraddel

    kraddel Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2012 Belgium

    9 indeed is way to much ! here in belgium a delirium would be like 4 euro's .
    also : foam in belgium is :
    for a lager 2 fingers thick
    the rest OR the same, or more, if in a special glass. look up the glass for karmeliet and stuff if you'd like.
    the delirium specificly is normaly given in a round glass, such as palm ( dont realy know a american example ) wich is about 2 fingers also. it may be seemed much, but in the right glass, the glass is made that way. you can see lines on the most ones as well, and two fingers down, you see ' 33 cl ' the rest is just extra, they made the glass bigger to fit the ' big foam 'in.
    but at your picture, they did use another glass...

    anyway 9 is to much and delirium aint THAT great !
     
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  10. dmoser

    dmoser Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 California

    now this is a few months old and prices vary by area, but this is this.
    Delirium Tremens 7.9 German $ 230.00 8 126 $1.82
    name, size of keg in gallons, type of keg, cost total, serving size in oz, number of servings, cost per serving.

    you only got ripped off if your feel ripped off
     
  11. WhatANicePub

    WhatANicePub Zealot (712) Jul 1, 2009 Scotland

    That looks a good head. How much did you expect to get and how much did the menu say you were going to get?
     
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  12. Nutwood

    Nutwood Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2012 Kentucky

    All human systems are flawed by definition.
     
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  13. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    LOL at the waitress and the aromatic head, she probably couldn't tell you the difference between a Belgium brew and Budweiser.

    The bartender should have poured some off and topped it off, one finger of head would have been perfect, a two inch head is a little much, it shows he either doesn't know how to pour, it's a fresh keg, or he doesn't give a shit. Either way I'd tip accordingly.
     
  14. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    It depends on how large that glass is. If your cost is about $1.00 an oz. your fine imo.
     
  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Nah, that would apply to a large bag of chips that have "settled" during shipping. I'm assuming that's a 12 oz glass, and you get a glass of beer with a one finger head. If they want to serve 10 oz of beer use a 10 oz glass.
     
  16. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    well I said it before and I say it again ban half pours at full price. even that beer is only 5-6 here for a half pour. I refuse to buy half pours anymore give me a full pint, I do not care about abv. Some states it may be illegal now sadly which is strange since I can get a full pour of ANY 14% abv wine. Go figure......
     
  17. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Head is a big con. What does it do? Look pretty and get in the way, take up space better filled with beer.Gives aroma true (which it steals from the body) but an inch does no more of this than half an inch and anything more is a rip off.
     
  18. omnigrits

    omnigrits Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2006 Texas

    Okay, let's figure. A full pour of 14% wine is usually around 6-7oz - 0.9% of the contents is alcohol. A full pour of 10% beer (RIS, DIPA, quad) would be 16oz - 1.6oz of alcohol in the glass.
     
  19. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    You don't drink much "Belgium brew", do you. It would be impossible to serve a 10 oz pour of DT in a 10 oz glass due to its high level of carbonation, and it would be difficult to pour it with a one finger head for the same reason. I have a set of branded DT glasses and like all Belgian ale glasses they're designed to hold a proper pour along with the large amount of head that is typical for these beers.

    http://www.beerables.net/ProductImages/wetten/glassware/Delirium Glass.gif

    If I ordered this beer in a bar I definitely would not expect to get a 10 oz glass filled to the brim with beer, I would expect to get a glass larger than 10 oz with about 10 oz of beer and a large amount of head on top.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the OP wasn't shorted, but I'm not saying he was either, what I'm saying is that it depends on the size of the glass, and simply seeing a large head does not automatically mean that it was a bad pour as many of you are saying.
     
  20. omnigrits

    omnigrits Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2006 Texas

    While it's undeniable that unscrupulous publicans and bar owners (or those being pressured by the suits at head office) will use extra head to cheat a customer out of their rightful pour, that doesn't mean head is always a con. A quick glance through a couple of episodes of The Beer Hunter will show beers being poured with far more head than would be acceptable to most British or American beer drinkers, and yet neither the Belgian/German/Czech customers nor Michael Jackson seemed put out by this. That's just the way some beers are poured.
     
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