Why does my Indian Brown taste metallic?

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  1. Timmush

    Timmush Pundit (931) Jan 5, 2008 New Jersey

    I made 10 gallons of an Indian Brown ale, I used the recipe similar to DFH Indian Brown Ale.
    Just bottled and it tasted awful. I cant really descibe the flavor but maybe metallic/astringent/ or something else I did not like. Does anyone know what could be the cause for it. A friend said it could be because the recipe I used called for some caramelized sugar to be boiled first and poured into the boil. The sugar did not burn.. I assure you.

    Any help would be appreciated. And. Is there any chance this beer will eventually become drinkable?

    THANKS!
     
  2. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    What was your mash temp? Too high and it brings out harsh flavors.
     
  3. Timmush

    Timmush Pundit (931) Jan 5, 2008 New Jersey

  4. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    Sounds right. Even with a short, 60 minute boil instead of the standard 90 minute it should be alright.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Hate to disagree, but mash temp should have nothing to do with a metallic flavor. Some hops, unbalanced water and metals leaching into the boil kettle might cause the metallic taste, but a lot of beer is mashed at the upper end (158-160*F). Mashing out higher than 170*F can leech tannins from husks, but even that is improbable.

    A recipe and procedures from OP would certainly help, though.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    With my alkaline water I could always get astringency if I let the temp go to high fly sparging. RO water has fixed that.

    Unless the water has a lot of minerals, or the brewing equipement has a problem, it could be old grain which can give a metalic taste.
     
  7. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    OP - Astringency is a sand papery sensation in your mouth, not a taste. When I drink tea I get astingency.

    I can also recommend letting the beer mature, you might be getting yeast flavors that will go away when the beer is finished.
     
  8. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    From Palmer :

    Metallic
    Metallic flavors are usually caused by unprotected metals dissolving into the wort but can also be caused by the hydrolysis of lipids in poorly stored malts. Iron and aluminum can cause metallic flavors leaching into the wort
    during the boil. The small amount could be considered to be nutritional if it weren't for the bad taste. Nicks and cracks ceramic coated steel pots are a common cause as are high iron levels in well water. Stainless steel pots will not contribute any metallic flavors. Aluminum pots usually won't cause metallic flavors unless the brewing water is alkaline with a pH level greater than 9. Shiny new aluminum pots will sometimes turn black when boiling water due to chlorine and carbonates in the water.
    The protective (grayish) oxides of aluminum can be enhanced by heating the clean pot in a dry oven at 250°F for about 6 hours.


    Hope this could help.
     
  9. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    As other people are poking around with questions, recipe, temperatures and processes could help some people narrow it down...
     
  10. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    Metallic is either water quality or yeast infection. Some yeast varieties and/or bacteria can do this. I know Metolious (sp?) has this off flavor and it is a horrid beer. Do you add campden tabs to nuke the chlorine in the mash and sparge water?

    Also, and this may be a stretch, but what hops did you use? I can't stand noble hops, they have a dirty metal taste to me, especially goldings. Hope this helps.
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    I am not sure what you call noble hops, but Goldings is not a noble hop by the usual definintion. British hops are often earthy (.some say taste like dirt).

    Noble hops are Saaz, Tettnanger, Spalt, Hallertau Mittelfrueh from Europe. That is the usual definition.
     
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