customer service and craft beer

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  1. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    I don't really have a problem with their general response. They told you the policy previously. With that policy, if it's still that difficult to plan a trip then maybe a visit to the brewery is not in the cards. If I would have received that response I would have moved on tbh. This is hardly an example of egregious customer service imo. Life is too short to take offense at each and every response one might not like.
     
  2. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    I agree with this, but the reaction from the employee was still unacceptable. It would be interesting to see the number of people supporting the employee's reaction, who have also worked in a retail job. My guess is zero.
     
  3. ArsMoriendiOU818

    ArsMoriendiOU818 Pooh-Bah (1,632) Nov 5, 2013 Virginia
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    This is I VERY much disagree with. In my experience working in retail, most employees would LOVE it for their boss to allow them to respond like this. Did you skip right to owner? Haha.

    P.S. I'd like to throw in there that the standard for customer service is probably lowest in California (and New York, for that matter). People are much nicer in Michigan, and well, almost everywhere else, haha.
     
  4. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    Of course they would love it, we all would. It does not make it right though.
     
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  5. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    It is one or the other with breweries in my experience. Total cluelessness or spot on customer service. We are mostly a service based country now that, sadly, sucks at service.
     
  6. RStaff4

    RStaff4 Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2014 Illinois

    There is a distinct chance that the person was asked like 45 times, the same question. Either that or they broke up with a significant other or some shit. I honestly think personal matters account for a lot of customer service snobbery. If someone ever does this again just give a 10 second pause and start repeating, "It's not your fault". If they start hugging you just let it happen, they needed it.
     
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  7. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    Hate to say it but they probably don't give a shit if you visit or not. They probably want less people on most days and this could have been a way of deterring you from coming. Sante is mostly a shit show these days and they could piss off a dozen people on FB every day and still have lines out the door when they open. Like it or not, demand like that will turn almost anyone into the soup **** eventually. And my guess is that you actually did talk with one of the owners.
     
  8. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    As far as I can tell around here, someone could make a post saying "I walked into a brewery and the owner jumped over the bar and kicked me in the nuts with a giant boot" and somehow it would still be pretty much a 50/50 split on who people sided with.
     
  9. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    Interestingly, I had a different shitty customer service experience at SARA.

    Went in, asked for half pours of three beers and asked to purchase 2-3 bottles of their Cask whatever the number. When I asked to buy the bottles, the server looked at his pal who was a customer sitting across from him and to my right and shook his head and muttered something right in front of me. I wasn't sure what to make of it, but it rubbed me wrong. Was he bothered by me for some reason? Not sure. But his behavior in front of me was poor form and set the tone for my visit there and likely affected how I enjoyed the beers and the place.

    Personally, I think they're overrated as hell. Hard to know whether I'd have a different opinion without the awkward moment while handing them over a good sum of my money.
     
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  10. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    We've reached the zenith folks. For the first time in history, we have businesses that are gleefully turning away people and their money. It's a whole new business model.
     
  11. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    It sounds to me like the employees here aren't trained and/or they aren't managed. It's a case of rats taking over the ship.
     
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  12. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I agree. How about you hold up the walls all by yourself. If a customer asks about your product, then you tell them.
     
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  13. Jbagel1

    Jbagel1 Initiate (0) May 25, 2015 Oregon


    He was just asking whats going to be around while he's around ? Whats wrong with that? You kinda sound like a ass..
     
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  14. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    When the brewery worker says to look at the feed again because they've already stated their release announcement policy, the customer immediately becomes petulant and passive aggressive.

    SARA 1 - 0 terrapinbrian
     
  15. indianaroller

    indianaroller Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2007 Indiana

    For the love of God, please do not open a business. We already have plenty that act like this.
     
  16. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    If anything can be learned from threads like these, it's that I can tell what BA's to ignore in the future when browsing.
     
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  17. KCUnited

    KCUnited Savant (1,038) Nov 11, 2014 Arizona
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    Definitely poor CS, but it's probably just an unfortunate byproduct of the Craft bubble. Beers and breweries get placed on pedestals and it's changed the rules of traditional customer interactions. The Draft Kingsification of Craft has turned a great bottle shop near me into bitter, standoff-ish, preachy buttholes and while I miss their selections, I choose not to do business with them. Unfortunately, for every nerd that wises up, 5 more get in line.
     
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  18. jeffgott

    jeffgott Pooh-Bah (1,791) Feb 15, 2015 New Jersey
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    I have to say ur 1st statement about 2 segments is news to me. I have yet to see a brewery culture of openly trying to outdo other breweries; hence all the collaboration beers between some of the best breweries in the country. I think its an industry that is refreshing (and not just the suds) in that artistry over capitalism seems prevalent. I chalk up ur experience to two ships colliding - u are under pressure/time demands having a family in ur beer adventures and a rude employee who isn't seeking beer karma. I really don't think this is common and it comes down to how important SARA is to u and how far u want to expose his behavior to his management. Fortunately most craft breweries and good businesses are using social media better than ever that u don't need to deal directly with personnel.
     
  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Nothing is wrong with asking a question ONCE. But if you are told in no uncertain terms what those rules are regarding such things and insist on asking the same question again. It practically begs that someone is trying to be that special ********* who gets the rules bent for them.
     
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  20. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    Unfortunate. But not surprising if you've ever met some of these jerks who work at breweries. They are far from refined persons. I look at stuff like that and just think to myself that they don't know any better. Being an asshole is simply the best that person knows how to do.

    Just don't give them your business. And seeing the response you received, I don't care how good their beer is. I won't give them my business either. Its just beer.
     
    #40 David_Deas, Feb 21, 2016
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