Brewing peach/pineapple amber ale tomorrow

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by BigJoeC, Aug 28, 2012.

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  1. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    My pops is coming up from NC on Sept 23rd and would love to try one of my beers. Problem is that I don't have any left and the last batch I made is an IPA that I over hopped and I am leaving it bottled for another 8 weeks to settle.

    Anyway, I am brewing an Amber Ale and adding peaches, possibly with pineapple. I started a 700ml starter a few minutes ago and plan on pitching it whole in 24 hours. I plan on brewing the ale and adding about 3 pounds of fresh peaches that I will peel, pit and puree, along with possibly a whole or half of a ripe pineapple pureed as well. I would add it with a minute left in the boil, counterflow chill it, and primary for hopefully only 10 days. I'm trying to save time but don't want to under ferment it in primary. I then would rack to secondary for 6-7 days and then bottle. It should be ready to taste by the 28th of september. We will see.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for this? I heard a little about adding peach to the secondary but am not sure how to do this best.
     
  2. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    Peach is a delicate flavor, especially with fresh peaches. I'd add the peaches and/or pineapple after primary. There's also always the chance you could get an infection from the peaches, so you might want to freeze them, then thaw and pitch.
     
  3. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Damn. OK. So freezing them essentially sanitizes? That sounds weird to me but I'm no pro. Would the peach really come through only doing a secondary? What if I pureed the fruits and brought to a low boil, cooled and added it right into the primary bucket for a day or two, then secondary to clarify? I just feel that adding all that fruit to secondary would negate the clarifying process.
     
  4. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    I would think fermenation would drive off some of the peach/pineapple flavors if added during flameout/whirlpooling. Fruit additions are probably* best in secondary.

    *While I haven't brewed a beer with fruit before, I would think of it like dry hopping in that secondary/post fermentation is the best time to add. All the off-gassing of primary fermentation would carry the aromas off and waste them.
     
  5. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    Yeah. I have heard that too. Maybe I will take my 5 gallon batch and try 5 different fruit variations. That sounds like a whole lot of fun. I would add all in the secondarys. I can primary the 5 gallons and make 1 gallon each of say peach, pineapple, peach & pineapple, maybe a plum, and I'll try an apricot.
     
  6. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    If you puree, and heat to pasteurize the fruit you'll end up with hazy beer because of pectins that you're creating. I personally don't care if my beer is hazy, but if you do then that's a downside of heating the fruit.

    Another thing with fruit beer is you need a TON of fruit to get real, serious fruitness. I did about 40 oz of raspberries (pasteurized) in 2.5 gal of a berliner and got just about nothing. The experiment sounds fun, report back with your results
     
  7. BigJoeC

    BigJoeC Zealot (563) Jan 22, 2011 New Jersey

    How could I best sanitize the fruits? Would purée and just freezing work? Or maybe purée and add a small amount of vodka? Not sure how best to do it.
     
  8. rossthefireman

    rossthefireman Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2008 California

    Pineapple is not easy to work with. I brew a pineapple wheat ale that has done well in competitions. Here are some tips.
    1)There is an enzyme in pineapple called bromelain that breaks down protein. Pineapple heated to 170f will deactivate the enzyme.
    2) Use slighty under ripe pineapple. Ripe pineapple in the boil degrades really quick with the heat and gives you old pineapple flavor. I have found that using sightly under ripe pineapple produces a fresher pineapple flavor.
    3)I use 1lb of chopped pineapple per gl. Chopped is the key and here is why- one day I got the bright idea of putting my pineapple in a food processor to save time on brew day. The food processor pureed the pineapple enough that it was a chunky liquid. Jump to the end of fermentation and my beer had a higher abv that I planned for. The pureeing of the pineapple seemed to free up more sugars to ferment. I had brewed the recipe the same exact way many times and all times I chopped the pineapple but the time I processed it I had a higher abv. This is the only explaination I could think of.
    4) You can secondary on pineapple, I havent really 'sanitized' when I have done that ainly because I heat the pineapple chunks to 170 in water and its really the skins of fruits that harbor the wild yeasts and bacterias. I have never had an infected pineapple beer.
    5) Maui Brewing uses pineapple juice in their Mana Wheat. Its an option but I think fresh pineapple tastes better.

    Any more questions about brewing with pineapple free free to PM me.
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    In the joy of brewing it is suggested that fruit be added at flame out and allowed to steep for twent minutes or so. Boiling the fruit can release pectin. I will be trying this method this weekend with a peach wheat. We'll see how it goes.
     
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