Great Notion

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by maltmaster420, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. dirtylou

    dirtylou Grand Pooh-Bah (3,352) May 12, 2005 Oklahoma
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    Went by on Saturday - had Juicebox and Ripe. I am clearly missing something here...

    Juicebox was OK, but really one dimensional. I didn't really enjoy Ripe that much.
     
  2. PNW_Whalez

    PNW_Whalez Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2016 Washington

    My guess is it's just a huge diversion from the typical NW IPA we are so used to. It's difficult for us to get anything along the lines of treehouse/trillium/HF/etc. out here, and now something remotely similar is readily available in PDX.
     
  3. NedStarkravingmad

    NedStarkravingmad Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2015 Washington

    Honestly, they're really smooth but I want a little bit of a hop finish on Juice Box. Merry Dankster had a cleaner finish.
     
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  4. anteater

    anteater Pooh-Bah (1,936) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    Just got back from Great Notion to try Juice Box. Definitely a good IPA, the aroma was insane, but I thought the taste and mouthfeel lacked a bit. It could have used a touch more bitterness, even for the style, and a bit more body. I also have to admit that I basically expected it to be the best IPA ever based on the hype so my expectations were way high. I probably liked Merry Dankster more.
     
  5. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    Y'all are a tough crowd, but that's why I love you. If this beer was from Massachusetts or New York people would hail it as the second coming of Heady.
     
  6. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Zealot (611) Feb 21, 2012 Oregon
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    beers are great, prices are terrible.
     
  7. Great_Notion_Brewing

    Great_Notion_Brewing Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2015 Oregon

    Thanks so much for the discussion here, everyone. We appreciate the love and also great feedback on our pricing. We're not charging anything that out of line though with what we're seeing at our favorite breweries in neighboring states. Please remember that startup breweries are heavily in debt and also lack the economies of scale and purchasing power of breweries that have bigger operations and tighter relationships than us. Think about it, we only have a 7 bbl brewhouse, so we're not buying the volume of hops/grain that others are buying, and therefore don't get those price breaks. We also are new so don't have the long term relationships to get discounts on ingredients either. Everything costs more for a startup from glassware, to hops to yeast and so on. Lastly, our rent is high. We are on a very popular street in Portland which costs more per sq. foot than other places, so that factors into our expenses as well. We tried our best to keep even the most expensive beer to make at a price everyone can have a glass of, thus the $5 price for every beer except our DIPA and Double Stack (those are $6). You just get a smaller amount. So $5 is expensive? Sorry guys but this is beer with the best ingredients possible and it's 2016, so prices for all these ingredients cost a lot more these days. We can't lose money just to serve amazing beer, and we're not trying to make a killing either, just serve amazing beer and food on a cool street at a price everyone can afford to have a glass of. Thanks again everyone.
     
  8. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I appreciate your response, and am hoping to have the chance to stop by soon (this weekend in fact, if all the stars align correctly). That being said, if you're going to provide a response like this to some of the off hand comments about your pricing (and there have been a number of them at this point), it would be helpful if you could provide a bit more specific information. For instance, $5 a glass seems OK to me, depending on the size of the glass. If we're talking a pint size glass, then OK, I'm completely with you on this, I think that's very fair. Same with the DIPA price tag. $6 for a 12 ounce pour is a bit high, but it's not completely out of line with what I've seen elsewhere in town for a limited release, DIPA. However, I just wanted to be sure I understood your comment. Is that what you're referring to, when you say "a glass."
     
  9. therackman

    therackman Initiate (0) Jan 3, 2009 Oregon

    I haven't tried GN yet. I'm happy to let the quality of the beer decide if the price is right. Based on what I'm hearing and reading in this thread, I won't hesitate to buy a few glasses when I get a chance to visit. They are at the top of my list for next Portland brewery visit.
     
  10. Nachojon

    Nachojon Pundit (844) Sep 17, 2011 Oregon

    You guys rule.
     
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  11. RedMedicine

    RedMedicine Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2005 Oregon

    Cool, thanks for the transparency. I'm all about paying for quality and ingredients. That crowler price still doesn't add up though.
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    My thought as well. It may be a damn fine beer, but $30 for a 64 ounce growler fill (double the crowler price) is pretty hard to understand.
     
  13. NedStarkravingmad

    NedStarkravingmad Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2015 Washington

    Is growler pricing that high? I had a 64oz growler filled with Ripe and it was substantially less than that, unless I was accidentally undercharged.
     
  14. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Don't know, and I may well be wrong (hope I am). I only saw a crowler price, and based the growler price on that. However, it may be that the crowler price includes a significant upcharge for the "can" in addition to the beer.
     
  15. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Zealot (611) Feb 21, 2012 Oregon
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    Can someone point out another brewery with more expensive hoppy beer fills (especially the 32oz price point) anywhere in the USA? I'm thinking great notion might have the most expensive fills atm in the country.

    If people will pay a reported (can't confirm, hearsay) $17 for a crowler of a DIPA b/c of their "top level ingredients and prime location" then my hat is off.
     
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  16. South2NW

    South2NW Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Oregon

    For comparison...notorious and hop venom are both currently available for crowlers/growlers. Notorious $22 64oz, $12 crowler. hop venom $16 64oz, $9 crowler.
     
  17. SeaAle

    SeaAle Maven (1,381) Jun 24, 2012 Oregon

    A growler of their IIPA's is $22 I believe. With their limited amount of beer you can expect to pay a premium for growlers. They already have a problem having available beer at the brewery, so imagine how it would be if the growler prices were lower. They probably shouldn't even being doing growler fills at all until they get their production up. It's no fun going there and seeing most of their IPA's OUT.
     
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  18. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Thanks for the correction/update. $22 is still pretty high, but it's NOT $30 high.
     
  19. HRCam

    HRCam Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2008 Colorado

    When I was living in Denver multiple breweries had growlers in the $24+ range especially if we are talking IPAs. People still pay it.
     
  20. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Crazy!
     
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