Northeast Pales/IPA/DIPA

Send me some of that beer that is better than Heady, and I'll certainly consider it.

 

I respect your stance in the clear beer is better camp.... I'm not here to convert people.. Just trying to educate those ignorant to the style.

 

You have significantly overestimated my desire for you to send NEIPA whalez to people I don't know in trade for Hoof Hearted amazeballs SE Ohio juice beer.

 

Ah ha! I never said clear beer is better and don't have a problem with drinking gravy beer. Aesthetics don't mean a lot to me. I'm a fat burly lady with a beard FFS !!!

My point has been and will continue to be murk isn't a requirement for the type of IPA you prefer beyond appearance.

 

appearance =

there is a reason why BA only gives appearance 6% of the total reviewable beer attributes. it has very little bearing on how good a beer is.

 

I think for whatever reason, certain yeast strains react differently to higher dry hop rates.... I have dry hopped at the same rate with 1318 (hazy) as I have with my boy Trois (not hazy) and gotten significantly different results.

Highly hopped beers with Trois will be hazy for a little while, but Trois eventually does drop pretty clear, or at least hazy clear depending on flaked grains %. Same goes for chico...but then again @mattbk was able make a juice bomb with chico...but i'm sure that beer wasn't on draft long enough to have a chance to go BRITE.

 

Soooo.... is there an example of a juicy, tropical, aromatic, soft bodied, CLEAR northeast IPA that could put an end to this "NE IPA's don't need to be hazy" argument?

 

I tottally AGREEE.... HAZE is however, a byproduct of making a beer in the NEIPA tradition.

5 gallon batch
10-20% flaked grains
4-8 oz's of hops in the boil
6-10oz's of dry hops
I don't know that those very general obscure NEIPA guidelines could possibly make a beer that isn't incredibly hazy??

 

Yea... Some chick with a beard brews one in Colorado.... Yet to be released to the public.

 

Totally agree...

Do you know of any beers out there that are clear and reminiscent of a NEIPA??

Is that Citra beer Kern River makes hazy??

 

I haven't had Citra in a few years, because its so hard to get. I have had 5 different hop-forward beers from Highland Park Brewing and the only one that was hazy was my favorite. go figure.

 

It turns out, Trillium doesn't comply with your NEIPA guidelines. Oops? Too late to edit?

 

Weird. Must just be a coincidence.

 

True. They don't add flaked grains in all of they're recipes. They also don't make a Clear IPA. Well I've heard one time they had a hoppy beer come out clear....and it wasn't good also from what I Hear.

 

They're rough guidelines created on the fly, right? If there is such a thing, which there isn't, its certainly not a bad start. Tropical hops, low bitterness, heavily dry hopped/whirlpooled, flaked grains, high chloride and english yeast. Whether this can produce a clear beer, I have no clue. Its also interesting that several people are claiming they don't care what their beer looks anyway!

 

That is because their consumers have been conditioned to believe murky beer = awesome sauce.

 

They all lie! Liars!!!

 

Now I don't know what to believe

 

I'm not so sure I agree with the flaked grain *requirement* for NEIPA. I'm sure it helps, but a hazy beer can definitely be made without it. I think it has more to do with the yeast type/hop quantity & timing. High chloride might not be necessary either. I've had luck with sub-60 ppm.

 

I agree that flaked grains probably really aren't a requirement. I was certainly not making a set in stone guideline earlier.. I was just merely outlining one way to make a NEIPA beer. I tend to like the higher chloride ratio, but agree its probably not a requirement. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Heady didn't have a higher sulfate level than chloride... Tree house tho I believe goes higher on chlorides.. taste being my only guide.