Temperature changes spoil beer. Myth or fact?

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  1. nds76

    nds76 Initiate (161) Mar 11, 2016 Michigan

    Over the years I have heard that if you buy your beer cold you should put it all in your fridge or it will get skunky letting it get warm sitting out instead of putting beer in your fridge as it's needed. Is this just a myth? If I buy a case of beer I can't fit it all in the fridge.
     
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  2. AdmiralOzone

    AdmiralOzone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,352) Jun 26, 2014 Minnesota
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    Just keep it cool and dark til you have room in the fridge and you should be okay.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The fundamental issue is that beer stored warm (whether it was previously cold or not) accelerates the beer going stale (oxidative processes). If you have the ability to continuously store your beer cold it will result in an extended shelf life.

    You can research Arrhenius Equation if you want more scientific details. Below is a handt graph that is helpful.

    Cheers!

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  4. Iamjeff6

    Iamjeff6 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2013 Virginia

    As you drink one put one in, problem solved
     
  5. Beerrito

    Beerrito Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2015 California

    Skunky*? Keep it away from direct sunlight and don't let it get too warm. Room temp should be fine.
     
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  6. TheDoctor

    TheDoctor Grand Pooh-Bah (3,484) Mar 7, 2013 Canada (QC)
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    Really interesting! Thanks for sharing that.

    Pretty scary graph when I contemplate all the room temperature (though it is definitely a little higher realistically) beer that I see everywhere.
     
  7. LennyOvies

    LennyOvies Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2015 Mexico

    Temperature is a problem when it gets too hot. If you keep your beer in a dark cool room you shouldn't worry.
     
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  8. cg123

    cg123 Zealot (548) Feb 27, 2012 Ohio
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    Skunky, or skanky, as you put it, has nothing to do with temperature. Repeatedly heating and cooling the beer will not cause skunkiness. Skunkiness is a direct result of light exposure. That doesn't mean heating/cooling the beer won't negatively impact the flavor in other ways.

    Like stated above, better to keep it cool if you can, but warming and cooling from room temp. to frig temp won't do a whole lot of damage.
     
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  9. gcg49

    gcg49 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2014 Texas

    The other posters have more or less answered your question in roundabout ways but I'll give you a direct answer - yes, this is a myth. Beer is quite resilient and can easily handle going from cold -> room temp -> cold again. It's not necessarily what you want for your expensive, rare cellar beer but for a random case that you're going to drink over a month or two there is no problem. Beer gets skunky from exposure to sunlight.
     
  10. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    People like skanky beer more than they admit. :wink: You mean "skunky"... and this is something that can happen with sunlight exposure not temperature changes. Generally speaking, beer is better kept in the cold, but the idea that cold beer needs to stay in the fridge is considered a myth (to use your term). You can put that cold beer in a cool dark basement instead (this is the ideal over other non-refrigerated storage if possible). Just avoid really huge temperature swings or keeping beer in the heat.

    Edit: a whole lotta people chiming in simultaneously
     
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Well, from the graph a beer stored at 20 degrees C (68 degrees F) will start to show staling characteristics at around 100 days. This is consistent with AB's best by timeframe of 110 days for Budweiser.

    Beer is indeed best stored cold.

    Cheers!
     
  12. emount91

    emount91 Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2015 Connecticut

    very fact.
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A few folks have posted about temperature swings (e.g., cold to warm to ...).

    The changing of temperatures is not a big issue. The big issue is the time spent at warm/hot temperatures since higher temperatures accelerate oxidative processes which result in the beer going stale.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. nds76

    nds76 Initiate (161) Mar 11, 2016 Michigan

    Thanks all for the input, it was very helpful! Now I won't feel guilty letting some sit outside of the fridge.
     
  15. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    If temperature changes wreck beer then we would have no IPA. It arrived after a journey of several months through conditions going from cold to equatorial and was considered better than when it left.
     
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  17. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Speaking of a myth! :grinning:

    Seriously, I have no idea how much of the story of IPA origins are true, but ... if it was heavily hopped at the start of the journey, it was a malty mess by the time it arrived! :grinning:
     
  18. MiloDropsOutofCollege

    MiloDropsOutofCollege Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2015 Colorado

    Nothing short of nuclear fallout could alter the taste of an AB product. A brief temperature change should be fine.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The British brewed IPAs of circa 1800 were quite different from contemporary American style IPAs, The hoppy nature of the British IPAs featured the bitterness aspect and while hops were also utilized for flavor/aroma the hops they used (e.g., East Kent Goldings) were not the center piece like the flavor/aroma hops used for modern day American style IPAs (e.g., Citra, Cascade, Centennial, Simcoe, Amarillo, etc.). This is a long winded way of saying that British IPAs of the 1800s were more resilient than contemporary American style IPAs and would have handled age better. In fact the British IPAs were aged in wooden casks at the brewery for “at least nine months before it was shipped to India or prepared for domestic consumption.”

    The other beer that was shipped from Britain to India was a hoppy Porter (East India Porter): http://www.beeradvocate.com/mag/6212/east-india-porter/

    Generous hopping rates used for both Pales Ales (i.e., IPA) and Porters (i.e., East India Porter) definitely has a preservative effect permitting beers to be exported to India and enjoyed there.

    Needless to say modern day beer drinkers enjoy the pronounced aroma/flavors of hops like Citra, Cascade, Centennial, Simcoe, Amarillo, etc. so contemporary American style IPAs are best consumed very fresh before hop aroma fade occurs (which can happen very quickly for beers which feature dry hopped aromas).

    Cheers!

    P.S. The above quote is from Mitch Steels’ IPA book. There is a wealth of information in that book including the historical brewing of IPA in Great Britain in the late 1700’s/1800’s.
     
  20. RobH

    RobH Pundit (908) Sep 23, 2006 Maryland

    My understanding from reading more recent historical accounts is that the beer shipped to India was primed in the casks for continued fermentation/conditioning during the voyage, which would have contributed significantly to the preservation of the brew, including through the temperature changes. In fact, warmer temps are necessary for bottle/cask conditioning.
     
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