Northeast Pales/IPA/DIPA

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  1. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Trillium uses Columbus as the base hop (def for bittering, prob a bit in the dry hop, if I remember some posts from JC correctly), and I think that's why I've really enjoyed a few of their brews -- love the pungent, dank qualities it provides. For reference, you can click on all the beers on their site, and it'll give you both the grist and hop regimen. Cool they provide that.
     
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  2. HopsintheSack

    HopsintheSack Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 California

    I just moved my first try at a NE style IPA (extract) to the secondary yesterday. This is how it looked during transfer and the smell is crazy hoppy.

    London III Yeast
    .5oz Centennial @ 60 min
    1oz Simcoe @ 10 min
    1oz Galaxy @ 10 min
    1oz Simcoe @ 0 min
    1oz Galaxy @ 0 min
    1oz Simcoe @ 170 degrees
    1oz Galaxy @ 170 degrees
    1oz Simcoe Dry Hop after 3 day in primary
    1oz Galaxy Dry Hop after 3 days in primary
    2oz Citra Dry Hop after 3 days in primary
    1oz Simcoe Dry Hop in secondary
    1oz Galaxy Dry Hop in secondary
    2oz Citra Dry Hop in secondary

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  3. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    pretty solid observations. I'm a huge Jamil fan, and so I guess I tried to cut him some slack. I tweeted him and asked if he made his way over to Cellarmaker yet, as It appears they are doing hazy hoppy beer right, especially since they have a close relation with Tired Hands. He never did respond, and thats okay. Maybe he did have a crappy example of a NEIPA in front of him. I do believe he is ignorant to the "style", since he doesn't have access to any of the people killing it. But yea I agree, a lot of Jamil fans just jumped on that hazy beer hate bandwagon, and perhaps west coasters just don't have many good commercial examples available to them??

    And don't even get me started on the comments of the BN's finest heel JP....
     
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  4. ohiobrew

    ohiobrew Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2013 Ohio
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    My first attempt and first batch!
    Used the double sunshine clone recipe from BYO. Could only boil 4 gallons instead of the 6.5 the recipe called for so I topped off to 5 gallons in the carboy. Used 1318 and didn't cold crash or do a secondary. Dry hopped 4 days after 1 week in primary.

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  5. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,635) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Yeah I've learned a lot from Jamil, so it's kinda disheartening to see him/them dump all over these beers. As for JP he doesn't like anything with more than .25 oz of hops in it so no surprise there. And here I thought " Cascadian dark ales " we're controversial lol.
     
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  6. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Yea I had similar feelings. Unfortunately a lot of people in the world just haven't had a good example, so they choose to berate a style they never had the pleasure of drinking. Its unfortunate, but I'm not gonna lose sleep.... plus these 8.5% NEDIPA's have completely crushed any Insomnia I may have suffered from.....
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you considered sending Jamil some of your homebrewed beers and/or Tired Hands? Just like you commented, maybe he needs to try 'good' examples.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I have sent many of my homebrewed beers to commercial brewers and they have always appreciated it.
     
  8. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    If I could keep them around long enough I would consider this.... but honestly people's opinions don't matter to me. I'm not out to convert people on this style...just trying to educate the people that are interested in brewing/drinking them.

    **edit** I have a close relation with the brewers of a place in Pittsburgh called The Brew Gentlemen....if I ever need positive reinforcments on this style...they do it for me. They are brewing absolutely world class hazy hoppy beer. I call them the Tree House of Pittsburgh.
     
  9. BumpyAZ

    BumpyAZ Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2014 New Jersey

    Mind sharing the grain bill? I recently put together a extract recipe to try to mimic a NE style IPA with about 30% Wheat DME and some carapils to steep while heating the water. Curious to see how much of that soft, medium bodied mouth feel I can get out of an extract batch but it's still in the fermenter for now.
     
  10. HopsintheSack

    HopsintheSack Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2012 California

    I used:

    9.15lbs Maillard Gold LME
    1lb Wheat DME
    .5lbs Carapils
    .5lbs C20
     
  11. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    Curious to hear how you went about this. Were they local breweries and you stopped by? Or did you ship to them? How did you tell them to expect it.
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Society

    I have gotten to know a few local brewers and became friends with them. When I am nearby or visiting the location (e.g., the brewpub) I drop off some homerewed beers. They have all been very appreciative to receive them. As commercial brewers they are often constrained in what they can brew (i.e., only brew beers that will be bought by their customers). They like to drink an assortment of beers and they get most excited to drink less popular beer styles like Grodziskie, Classic American Pilsner, Sticke Alt, reconstruction of an 1896 Michelob, Cranberry Belgian Pale Ale, etc.
    Yup. I have shipped them a half-dozen times or so to brewers who are not nearby. For some of these brewers I have corresponded with them on brewing related matter seeking some guidance on recipe formulation or brewing process questions. As a thank you I sent them some homebrewed beers. I coordinated shipment dates via e-mail.

    It is all about sharing the joy of good beer.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,274) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    The byo all grain recipe uses oats as well IIRC.
     
  14. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

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    First keg pour, only on gas for a couple days. I wouldn't call it gravy, but it has a heavy haze!
     
  15. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    I may have over done it on this one :grinning: ...well see how it clears after some time in the keg on gas

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  16. holzwama

    holzwama Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2015 Minnesota

    Recipe?
    Hop schedule?
     
  17. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    "NE Session IPA"
    1.040 OG 1.0095 FG ABV 4.0 Mashed at 154 PH 5.25
    Water profile Ca-95 Mg-0 Na-0 Cl-138 SO4 40 HCO3-0

    73% Pale Malt
    8% Flaked Wheat
    16 Flaked Oats
    3% GNO

    Bitter to 16 IBU with Centennial
    Mosiac, Centennial, Apollo 3-2-1.5 (ounces) at 140-160-200 (degrees)
    1 oz Simcoe pitched with 1318
    Primary Dry Hop and Keg Hop Split with Mosaic Centennial Simcoe 2-1-.5 (ounces)

    Too young to give a accurate review but It could use a touch more color IMO.
     
  18. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,274) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Getting started on starters tonight. 1318 & 1056 both getting stepped up in 1500ml 1.030 starters to the tune of 215b cells. Wort is going to come in @1.058 and will be using chinook, centennial, columbus, and amarillo in the boil. Dryhops will be columbus, centennial, and copious amounts of citra.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Perhaps @honkey will have some suggestions on how best to 'evaluate' this experiment?

    Cheers!
     
  20. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,326) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    If you are looking for advice, I recommend a slightly lower pitching rate... Around 170 Billion cells for 5 gallons. I prefer a slightly lower pitching rate for hoppy beers as I think it helps to preserve hop flavor a bit better. I think the increase in esters for the 1318 is also a positive. It is a beautiful yeast strain with great peach aromas. Good luck!
     
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