Yeast starte-bumed/ruined?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Brandonhelvie, Mar 12, 2016.

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  1. Scope4Beer

    Scope4Beer Zealot (677) Sep 28, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    FWIW, I always add 300mL more water than what my target volume is supposed to be for my starter. I've found this is my boil off for 15 min in the small sauce pan I use to make my starters.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Assuming the flask (which you sanitized before adding the wort and yeast) has been continuously covered with sanitized foil (except for a few seconds while you decanted), I don't think there's much risk of contamination. Bacteria don't crawl.
     
  3. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    But don't forget that you also add some volume when you add the DME.
     
  4. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    I did a 2L yeast starter last night for a Wit I'm doing this weekend. I used 7 OZ of DME and WhiteLabs WLP400. I put it on the stir plate last night and let it do its thing. This morning I had a bit of a mess on my hand, it oozed out and down the flask and some got onto the stir plate.

    Not something I wanted to clean up at 5 AM. Any reason why I'd get such a reaction? Should I use less DME next time?
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    How big is the flask? In my experience, starters above about 1.3 quarts in a 2L flask are often asking for some blowoff. IOW, I need more relative headspace in starters than in a fermenter.
     
  6. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    It's a 2L flask, I'm not exactly sure how much it holds in totality. Maybe I'll do 1.5 L going forward.
     
  7. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Get a foam stopper. Just ran a starter for 48hrs.
     
  8. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I've had the same issue, but resolved it by slowing down the stirring speed. If I see a lot of foam, I turn the speed down, when it drops, I speed it up. In other words, you can control it by the speed of the stirring rod. I usually slow it down the first night while I sleep and adjust it in the morning.
     
  9. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    If you use a couple drops of defoamer, the starter doesn't foam and certainly won't volcano.
     
  10. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    I do have a foam stopper, it over powered it! BTW, this is my forth or fifth starter and the first time this has happened.
     
  11. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    I have defoamer, will use it next time.
     
  12. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    The only issue is I made it last night and would not be able to monitor overnight.
     
  13. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    As I mentioned, it helps to keep it slow the first night, and adjust it in the morning. As Brew_Betty mentioned, you can also/or add a couple of drops of defoamer like Fermcap.
     
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  14. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

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  15. Brandonhelvie

    Brandonhelvie Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2015 New York

    Never brew again without a starter. I had a massive fermentation starting about 3 hours after pitching. Not going to take time to add a picture now, but, I had to use 1 inch blow off tube into a 30 gallon tote to catch the foam. Crazy
     
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