Is this an acceptable restaurant pour?

well I guess if you listing it that way, to me any pour less that 12 to 14 oz is a rip off period. I never seen any one pour just 25cl in Belgium have you?

 

Ive never been in Belgium. Its not one of the 4 european nations Ive been to. But considering their glassware is either 25 cl or 33 cl, you arent going to get 12-14 ozs, as 33 cl is about 11 ounces.

 

well yea its 11.3 to be exact but its the smallest bottle they serve, but MOST drafts are served in bigger glasses that 330ml which is close enough to 12 oz I can live with. Besides most of the time if its not a Trappist I drank out of 750ml bottle in Belgium.

Still its all a moot point, the price that bars charge in the states for whatever pour is overpriced. IMHO. So I do not buy them anymore, simple I save up and go over to the source.

 

By volume, Im sure most Belgian beer served is Stella. But I think we can ignore that.

If they are serving in larger glassware, they arent shipping it to the US. I checked my glassware cabinet, most of my Belgian glassware is 25 cl, I have a few that are 33 cl, and ONE 50 cl glass, Hoegaarden.

 

of course not I bet the glass is made in China anyway for Americans. Go to Belgium and we will talk.

 

Im not sure what that has to do with the OP.

 

well #1 it does not except for when you talk about Belgian glasses that are marked, then it does IMHO. Then you know that Belgian themed and Belgium are not the same things. and since it was a beer in the Belgian style it all connects. The point being did he get ripped off, he thought so, and I agreed.

 

And you are wrong (well, maybe, we dont know for sure what volume he got).

And every image of a belgian bar I can find shows beers being served in the same belgian branded glassware we get in the US.

 

wow ok your going to believe pictures over someone who been there over 30 times, ok good for you.

 

I dont know you, the pictures exist. Show me tangible counter examples.

So are you saying you get Chimay Blue, for example, in pint glasses? Maybe it happens, I dont know. But honestly, I would expect a bar in Belgium to serve my chimay in a chimay goblet. Or DT, for that matter, to go back to the OP?

 

should i believe you or one of my close friends that is stationed over there that i shared the pictures with and said that they are correct?

 

do glasses have markes on them yes, of course they do. Do they only fill to the line no of course not.

 

I thought you said the glasses in question were being made in China only for Americans and they weren't used in Belgium?

 

Good point allmost as good as the 2 points on your avatar

 

Belgian breweries don't make different glassware made in china for the US market, it's the same glass in every bar, brewery, store in both the US and Belgium. If you're going to that magical belgian bar getting 14oz pours then your getting over poured and that bar is likely losing money. It is NOT what the brewer intended, which is why they have glassware with markers made specifically for there beer.

What does going to Belgium have to do with clear pictorial and video facts? Ever read anything by Michael Jackson? He states the same thing in both the beer hunter series and his books, that most or all Belgian breweries have specific glass and fill points for there beer.

 

yea I have all MJ books but 1. I cannot argue glassware I don;t know where it comes from only to assume everything is made in china now days. I know this though I know how they server beer here and there. I know what a good value is and what is not.

 

If you been over you know most place try to give you the exact glass, MOST of the time beer is from BOTTLES. so if you given a 250ml glass for chimay and they give you a 750ml and they pour it over the line, what does that mean to yea?

we also know in the states most beer is from kegs, and most place are really trying to make a profit off those expensive Belgian kegs. Most folks are going to not want to pay bottle prices here for beer that is very commonly served from bottle over in Belgium.

 

You seem to be missing the point. If I sit down in a bar and order a draft DT I'm not expecting a 750 ml (25+oz) pour, so whether or not you're served a 750 ml bottle in Belgium is irrelevant. When I order that DT I'm expecting a 10-12 oz pour, and if I get a 20 oz glass with 11 oz of liquid in it and 9 oz of foam then there's nothing unfair or unreasonable about that. If you were to order the same beer and expect 20 oz or 750 ml of beer then your expectations are misguided.

 

Yes most places are trying to make a profit, it's called running a business. that doesn't mean these places are trying or are ripping people off in anyway, and if they are in the long run they will go under.

This makes no sense.

 

Actually, I think every time I have bought Chimay Blue, its been in the 750 ml bottle. Which was generally split across multiple people. But even if they sat down a 750 ml bottle in front of me, it would get poured about 250 ml at a time.