Utahbeerdudes pH calculator

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  1. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Anybody heard if @utahbeerdude has done any new updates to his MpH calculator? I seem to remember he mentioned a while back (can't find it) that he we working on some updates for a new version. Haven't seen anything in a while though?
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Indeed, MpH Water Calculator has been updated to version 3.0. The biggest changes have to do with (i) water-ion entry and (ii) the fact that two different water sources can be input. In addition, parameters for BJCP 2015 styles have been added (for convenience). The underlying calculations have not been changed. Cheers!
     
  4. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's always possible that I'm doing something wrong (probable, really)....but when I click on the link, it downloads version 2.0, not 3.0.

    Looking forward to seeing the new changes and thanks, once again, for sharing your hard work.
     
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  5. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    I compared this to EZ Water and came out with a few ml. difference of lactic acid it would take to get my beer to 5.35 mash ph (this is where I like my hoppy beers). when I brew, I will add lactic acid, starting with the lowest one and add until I reach the desired. i will then let you know which is closest. I use an electronic ph meter, so it should be accurate.
     
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  6. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Very good calculator !!!! thanks to all and the most for the author
     
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  7. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    The link is now fixed. Thanks for pointing this out. Cheers!
     
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  8. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    @utahbeerdude I actually think I know where there is a difference between your sheet and EZ Water. I use chalk to get my bicarbonate up a little on ro water and EZ Water calculates 50% of the chalk (needs acid to fully dissolve)
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That 50% factor is IMO a bit of rule-of-thumb arm waving because chalk just doesn't dissolve well under mash conditions. I very much doubt it's accurate across a wide range of mash temps, pH, etc. I'd recommend pickling lime or baking soda when you need to increase pH.

    ETA: re-reading your posts, I'm struggling to think of a good reason to use both chalk and acid in the same mash. You mentioned wanting to increase bicarbonate, but that's just a way to increase pH when needed, not usually an end goal in and of itself.
     
  10. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    I use RO water and I want to increase bicarbonate to about 128ppm. I already have 2.5g of baking soda added, but dont want too much sodium, so in order to get the bicarbonate up w/out increasing sodium more, I use 1 g chalk. its not for ph at all, its purely for the bicarbonate. does this make sense? if not, do you have any other suggestions?
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Why do you want to increase the bicarbonate to 128 ppm? I also build from RO (distilled actually), and I never target any specific bicarbonate level. It's really just a pH buffer, and one that it sounds like you don't need. I think you might be going about this the hard way.
     
  12. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    this is the level I had when I lived at my old place and partially used its tap water. I guess I just havent tried brewing hop forward beers without having this bicarbonate level. maybe its time to try without chalk... thanks for your help!
     
  13. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Just to add to @VikeMan's response. You'll notice MpH does not have a place to add chalk. This is because it is highly discouraged (due to the unpredictability of its effect). There is no (or at least very little) flavor impact from carbonate; the only reason one might add it is to offset inherent acidity in the grain bill. Sodium Bicarbonate and/or calcium hydroxide should do the trick if necessary.
     
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