Tropical Fruit and Hops

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by AugustusRex, Apr 11, 2016.

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  1. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I like both, but I like the more fruity/tropical hops more. I prefer the likes of Citra, Galaxy, and Mosaic, but every once in a while I crave the simplistic pine and grapefruit of Cascade and Centennial. It's maybe 70/30 for me. I would also like to mention that Simcoe is actually one of my favorite hops. I mean, damn. There's nothing like it.
     
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  2. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I mean, hell, Bell's Simcoe pilsner is my most anticipated beer of this year.
     
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  3. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    June can't get here quick enough. Hope to be drinking this stuff all summer long
     
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  4. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    YES. Like, OMG, it's going to be like Christmas come June.
     
  5. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I am glad to have heard of this! I must have it.
     
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  6. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    I always wonder. You now have traditional Altbiers, that are usually hopped with old world hops, hopped with new world hops (Schumacher 1838 and Uerige Jjrön for instance). And it works really well. So how would a american-style IPA or DIPA work with old-world hops?? Is there such a thing?...
     
  7. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    For me personally, I tend to have a preference for the current new-wave tropical hops, but I still occasionally enjoy a well craft IPA that comes across as resiny or piney. Only 2 things I don't like in my IPAs:
    1) too much lingering bitter in the finish
    2) infused fruit juice blends...any fruit flavor should come from the hops, I don't want a radler/shandy IPA. Just a turnoff IMO.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    No I wouldn't out of concern that it would have a 'green' flavor from so many ounces of hops need to achieve something like that. You would just need to add so much vegetable matter (leaf/pellet).

    A potential option would be to brew using hop extract to achieve that level of IBUs. I have never used hop extract in my homebrewing practice so I am ambivalent about hop extract.

    Cheers!
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What you are describing there would be considered by some folks as an oxymoron; they would argue that one of the defining features of an American style IPA is the use of American (or New World) hops.

    One IPA that I enjoy drinking is Southampton Burton IPA which is a bit of a hybrid of New World and Old World styles:

    “Southampton Burton IPA

    Beer Style: IPA— India Pale Ales (IPAs) are more highly hopped and a bit stronger than traditional pale ales. There are two distinct styles—English and American. English IPAs tend to be more subtle and a bit maltier while American IPAs have a bolder hop character.

    Southampton Burton IPA— We combine the best of two worlds in Southampton Burton IPA.

    Our IPA is modeled on the legendary ales that made the British brewing city of Burton-on-Trent world famous. What makes the ales of Burton distinctive is the water in the region that contains a unique combination of minerals— adding a truly distinctive character to the brew. We replicate this famous brewing water to give Southampton Burton IPA a British accent. The American accent comes from a heavy dose of citrusy northwest hops for a bold refreshing character. This is truly the IPA that captures the Old School meeting up with the New!

    Bitterness.................55 IBUs

    Alcohol Content........6.5% Alcohol by Volume

    Grains .......................2-row malt, British caramel malt and wheat malt

    Hops .........................Centennial, Cascade, Vanguard, East Kent Goldings and UK Fuggles

    Food Pairings ...........Thai, Indian, Mexican, other spicy foods, sharp and pungent cheeses, game, poultry and salmon.”

    http://www.totalbeveragesolution.com/brands/label.php?lID=146&bID=49&type=Beer

    Cheers!
     
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  10. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    Thread is funny.

    Bunch of old guys shaking their fists.
     
  11. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    More like shaking their canes.
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I like both. One of my favorite local APA is kettle hopped with chinook, and dry hopped with citra. It's like weed made love to a pine tree with a mango.
     
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  13. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
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    I've become addicted. Though I live in New England so I can't help it.

    I still love West Coast IPA's though. Enjoy By and Double Jack will never not be good.
     
  14. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    I can't imagine when I wouldn't be in the mood for a Hill Farmstead 2xGalaxy. Perhaps my favorite IPA. That said, I still like the old school hops. I'll always go back for a SNPA with that Cascade awesomeness.
     
  15. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    I do agree that galaxy, citra , and mosaic. Are you can say the lead hops that people are currently looking for you can kind of say. With these juice bombs being the current craze.
    But I Love me some cascade. The big citrus w/ some floral notes. Grapefruit, Orange, floral notes similar to likes roses.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am a kindred spirit to @SFACRKnight in that I like both. One of my favorite hombrewed IPAs is a Simcoe/Amarillo IPA. The pine and citrus just play so well together!!

    Cheers!
     
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  17. Zonk

    Zonk Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2014 New Jersey

    You're not going to stumble across it in Germany, but Neshaminy Creek does a Double IPA with all English hops (Admiral, Phoneix, Target, Pilgrim), and has some Maris Otter in the malt.
     
  18. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    That's the thing. "American IPA" isn't only defined by new world hops. The malts, the strength, (the yeasts as well,right?) and the conditioning and serving practices differ A LOT from english IPA. That's why it interested me...
     
  19. Zonk

    Zonk Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2014 New Jersey

    I agree, its hard to pinpoint Old vs New. Normally I would say New World hops and higher ABV define IPA as New World, but once you start making an 8.2 % Double, a lot of lines get blurred. They call this particular beer and English Double IPA, but to me it tastes like an American DIPA dosed with tons of bitter, resinous, earthy English hops.
     
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