Brewery collaborations the good and the bad

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  1. gregcordle

    gregcordle Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 Ohio
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    I was reading about the new beer camp and it got me thinking. All collaborations are selling the premise that the sum is greater than the parts. I'd love to hear from you guys when you think two power house breweries united for an amazing experience or when you tasted it and wondered what the hell happened.
     
  2. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Super Friends may have been the best collab ever. Most collabs, though, seem to be less fine than the beers made by the individuals involved. I rarely get excited about collabs anymore, they now seem more like marketing than the promise of greatness.
     
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  3. gregcordle

    gregcordle Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 Ohio
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    Maybe I'm getting jaded but I feel the same way. I can't remember my last incredible collaboration. I've not had Koffury yet though so....
     
  4. thepenguin

    thepenguin Savant (1,215) Aug 8, 2010 Massachusetts

    It just seems like the price rises in proportion to the number of brewers involved. There have been some great collabs, but I'm always left wondering what was the actual extent of each party's involvement, and did it really add anything to the mix?

    Personally I don't feel like the large trend towards collaborations has had a positive effect on the beer world. It drives up prices, contributes to the increasingly powerful hype/scarcity aspect of this hobby and too often fails to deliver when all is said and done.
     
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  5. lwhcchh

    lwhcchh Devotee (380) Aug 31, 2010 Oklahoma

    Mostly overrated and usually boring.
     
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  6. Strangestbrewer

    Strangestbrewer Crusader (477) Oct 17, 2014 Oregon

    Best: Fort George, Block 15, and Boneyard - 2014 3-Way IPA
     
  7. gregcordle

    gregcordle Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 Ohio
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    That actually does sound good.
     
  8. Statonxyb

    Statonxyb Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Kentucky

    I haven't been impressed that much, really. Latest I've had was a collaboration from Other Half and Stillwater (Rockstar Farmer, a saison/farmhouse), and I thought it was pretty average.

    Gose Gone Wild is pretty f'in sweet though.
     
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  9. NickSMpls

    NickSMpls Grand Pooh-Bah (3,176) Nov 11, 2012 Washington
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    I have mixed feelings on this one. First off, I have no idea on what a "collaboration" really means. It probably is whatever the collaborators want it to mean and usually they don't give much in the way of details. Share a common recipe? Traded some tips and techniques? Sourced the same ingedients from the same suppliers at the same time and brewed in both places? Brewed the same style at the same time? Use the same stainless steel valves in the brewhouse? Some variation of the above?

    For example, MN-based Schell's and the German Gold Ochsen Brewery in '14 brewed the same style (a Doppelbock) at the same time with local ingredients. Sounds like a winnner to me, especially if it came in a mixed pack to compare side by side. At least the Schells was good, but evidently the German brewery had little to no USA distribution which rather missed the point.

    A few years ago, we got very excited about a Beer Camp Across America offering which had SN and New Glarus! That one was a British Bitter and was "meh". I'd love to hear Dan Carey's take on that one.

    "Todd the Axeman" from Surly is an outstanding DIPA with a mention of a Danish brewery and implied collaboration and not another word.

    Maybe the respective web sites would have more details, but not not always.
     
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  10. gregcordle

    gregcordle Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 Ohio
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    That's a great point I hadn't considered. What constitutes a collaboration?
     
  11. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    Couple good ones
    OH/TH Oat Overdose
    Victory/Stone/DFH Saison du Buff (may be in the minority here)

    Underwhelmed by
    Lawsons/Otter Creek collabs
    Horal Megablend
     
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  12. Golfer3Aces

    Golfer3Aces Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2014 Wyoming

    I think the best collaboration beer I've ever had was Blakkr from Surly, Three Floyd's and Real Ale. The complexity of that beer was amazing.
    I really don't have any that come to mind in terms of it being bad. Definitely more good than bad with the ones I have had.
     
  13. red94tt

    red94tt Pundit (957) Nov 27, 2008 Michigan
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    Collabs aren't something I specifically seek out but I've had a couple of truly enjoyable ones along the way:

    Short's/Half Acre - Freedom of '78
    Siren Craft/Cigar City - Caribbean Chocolate Cake
    Sierra Nevada/Brauhaus Riegele - 2015 Oktoberfest
     
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  14. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Pooh-Bah (2,811) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    That SN collab on the O-fest was pretty killer if you ask me... I'd buy it year round
     
  15. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Michelangelo had assistants but no collaborators. I'd rather experience individual takes on the subject.
     
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  16. Fordcoyote15

    Fordcoyote15 Pooh-Bah (2,368) Nov 19, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Marketing gimmick to sell based on multiple name brands.
     
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  17. MacMalt

    MacMalt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,322) Jan 28, 2015 New Jersey
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    I'm not sure that for a collaboration to be successful, the whole must exceed the sum of parts but I do think it should improve upon what either could do on its own. Recently, Carton has collaborated with Other Half (All Orange Everything), Barrier (SS-C.R.E.A.M.), and Green Flash and Alpine (Ron's Steam Bock Haircut) and all three are very good!
     
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  18. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado

    Sierra Nevada/Riegele Oktoberfest was awesome.
    Zwei/Equinox IPL was confusing
     
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  19. kalosjakar

    kalosjakar Initiate (0) May 5, 2014 Rhode Island

    I dont have a worst but I have a best. Geyser Gose by Evil Twin and Two Roads. I could easily say its my top 3 favorite Gose.
     
  20. Pierre_Pressure

    Pierre_Pressure Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2016 Pennsylvania

    I've generally been underwhelmed by collaborations and the few I have enjoyed tended to be a bit pricier than comparable beers by the breweries, notable exception being Saison du Buff. That said, I don't think I've had any that I would classify as "worst". I did pick up a beer camp variety back this year. With the variety offered it shouldn't be hard to get my money's worth here.
     
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