Can > Bottle

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Hanzo, Sep 7, 2012.

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  1. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I'll admit, I used to hate cans, but the more and more beers I actually try out of cans the more I lean towards preferring them (can't believe I'm saying this, it could be the recent case of Heady Topper talking). I'd go as far as to say I'd like every currently bottled beer to switch to cans (if they had to chose one of the other).

    Pros:

    Light blocking
    Weight (important for transportation and shipping)
    Durability (important in trading)
    Cost savings for the brewer (I assume, outside of the canning line purchase the cost per can is lower than bottle)
    Compactness and stackability

    Cons:

    Aging (how long until the interior lining degrades?)

    Having trouble coming up with bottle pros.....

    Other pros/cons? Do you agree that cans are the superior vessel?
     
  2. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    SABMiller has the punch top cans. I would list it as a pro, but it's only on their beers.
     
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  3. Jspriest

    Jspriest Pundit (940) Feb 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I can't say this is true for every brewery that utilizes cans, as it depends on their filler settings which can vary over even a single run, but they often stay fresher longer, with lower oxygen levels in the package.

    A major pro that kind of ties into some of your others is that you can take them places glass isn't allowed (many pool and beach areas, rivers) and backpacking/camping/hiking where you would be substantially less pissed at carrying back empty cans than empty bottles to recycle, due to space and weight.

    Aging: Had a 2010 Ten Fidy a month ago that was glorious. Others have had older and reported great things. (Though I've never seen it age tested to any extreme, the interior liner holds up to temperatures of around 180 degrees, at which point it begins to warp and become detached from the aluminum. Pretty extreme. Not logical evidence of its suitability for aging, but shows its resiliency.)

    Pro: Shower beer. I had the unfortunate recent experience of a bottle falling off a narrow wet shelf and shattering in the tub. Never again.

    Pro/Con: They heat up and cool down faster than bottles.

    Cans are the pragmatist's superior vessel. Bottles preferred by aesthetes and the mentally challenged, who cannot dissociate traditional shitty beer in a can from the package it's in.
     
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  4. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    I''ve warmed to cans as well but I wouldn't go quite that far.
     
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  5. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    I like cans also one other pro to add to list IMO

    great for camping,poolside,outdoor events where glass may not be allowed
     
  6. mcaulifww

    mcaulifww Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2011 Virginia


    Agreed. I can get super hillbilly with cans
     
  7. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    I love cans also but I think everyone's enthusiasm about them just has to do with the fact they are fairly new to the craft industry (or at least most breweries). If everything previously had only been in cans, and we started to see more and more breweries bottling beers, i think the feeling about cans and bottles would be reversed. In the end it's all about what's in the container that counts though.
     
  8. pschul4

    pschul4 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Illinois

    Aging shouldn't be too much of a problem depending on how long we're talking about. I've had a 2 year old TenFidy (thanks Rempo!) and it was delicious
     
  9. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Con - Can't put your homebrew in cans.
    I'll stick with pry-off bottles until I stop brewing (death).

    Con - Not as effective as a weapon
     
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  10. mcaulifww

    mcaulifww Initiate (0) Aug 18, 2011 Virginia

    ISO: BPA Aged Dark Lord
     
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  11. cmannes

    cmannes Pundit (967) Mar 15, 2009 Minnesota

    New Belgium has an interesting blog post regarding BPA in cans.

    http://www.newbelgium.com/Community/Blog/08-06-19/Speaking-of-CANS.aspx

    So while BPA can technically be a "CON" it seems a rather small "CON."
     
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  12. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I still prefer to consume my beer via IV drip. Once I'm all hooked up I can watch the game, take a nap, whatever.
    I don't even have to move.
     
  13. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Now that's funny!
     
  14. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    Pro - Cans make you cool with hipsters. Until cans are too popular, of course.
     
  15. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    People seem to doubt the ageability of cans but I have cans of ten fidy from the first batch that went into cans 5 years ago and they're doing just fine.

    If they can go 5 years without any signs of there being an issue, then they can probably easily go 7, or 8, or even 10, and you're not going to age many beers for much longer than that.
     
  16. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    What was wrong with cans before?
     
  17. happy4hoppybeer

    happy4hoppybeer Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Pros:

    Protects the beer from light better
    Less weight
    Saves shelf space

    Cons:

    Aluminum taste and or just simply does not taste as good from bottle
    no classiness (hey you rarely ever see wine or liquor in cans)
    Still same price as bottles(as far as craft beer is concerned), very rarely does it make any price difference


    No, I consider cans inferior for cons 1 and 2 above. There's still very good pros as I and every one has listed, but for me the cons outweigh the pros.
     
  18. HopsJunkiedotcom

    HopsJunkiedotcom Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2010 Florida

    Does not compute. We only drink beer for the taste :stuck_out_tongue: Seriously, though, you should switch to intravenous vodka for efficiency.
     
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  19. Brew33

    Brew33 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2007 Ohio

    Pros:

    Light blocking - Not a real issue with brown bottles. Irrelevant.

    Weight (important for transportation and shipping). - Savings aren't passed on to the consumer. Irrevelant.
    Durability (important in trading). - I pack cans the same as bottles. I've never received a broken bottle but I've received lots of dented cans. Irrelevant.

    Cost savings for the brewer (I assume, outside of the canning line purchase the cost per can is lower than bottle) -
    Savings aren't passed on to the consumer. Irrelevant.

    Compactness and stackability - Sure? If that matters to you.....

    I'm not saying there aren't pros to Cans. For one being able to take cans to pools/parks/outdoor events is awesome. But most of the "Pros" I see for cans aren't "cons" for bottled beer.
     
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  20. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I stick the needle in my tongue.
     
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