Miscounting states

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  1. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I think it is because most of the breweries that have a Master Beer Listing have brewing operations in multiple states. For simplicity, I'm guessing these are not included in the count because otherwise they would have to make a choice on which (or all) states to count...
     
    #41 dbrauneis, May 13, 2016
  2. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    That makes sense, but I would just include them in the state the original brewering operations were or where the company is based. Kona should count for Hawaii even if they contract it out because that's where the company is centered for example.
     
    #42 Scott17Taylor, May 13, 2016
  3. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I can see it from that perspective but my guess is the counting system pre-dates the Master Beer Listings from a code perspective and there are too many possible permutations to make it worthwhile to invest in... Also, I can imagine that some breweries that started in one state and are still headquartered there but have no brewing operations there anymore.
     
    #43 dbrauneis, May 13, 2016
  4. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    I could see the coding being tough, but if it won't count for for a state on the state count I would like to see it removed from the top beers for the state. That way I can tell which beers count.
     
    #44 Scott17Taylor, May 13, 2016
  5. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I'm going to have to disagree with you there as I use the Top Beers in STATE for guidance on what to look for when I'm visiting a state...

    Besides, there are really not that many breweries that are Master Beer Listings - the big ones that catch most people up are Dogfish Head and Cigar City (because there are not that many other breweries from those states that see a lot of distro to other states).
     
    #45 dbrauneis, May 13, 2016
  6. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Any thoughts on Uinta or Surly not being counted as UT or MN? Just wondering if there is a glitch. Thanks!
     
    #46 cryptichead, May 13, 2016
  7. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    I just want a way to track which beers count, I'm trying to get all 50 stantes and am only at 19. There are quite a few that don't count.
     
    #47 Scott17Taylor, May 13, 2016
  8. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I'm pretty sure those two are counted. The count only updates one time per day when you are logged in.
     
    #48 dbrauneis, May 14, 2016
  9. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I highly recommend just starting a Google Sheet (spreadsheet) and tracking it that way - that is how I have been doing it for the last few years to get to 49/51. It is not the ideal solution but until the enhanced stats are available to show this information, it is the best solution that I am aware of...
     
    #49 dbrauneis, May 14, 2016
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  10. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Thanks, that might be my best option.
     
    #50 Scott17Taylor, May 14, 2016
  11. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    The last three unique states I've ticked are SC, MS, and LA. My state count increased by only two. Do any of these have master listings?

    Lazy Magnolia (MS)
    Thomas Creek (SC)
    Abita (LA)

    Thanks for your help!
     
    #51 dcotom, May 18, 2016
  12. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    I feel your pain - I am off by one state according to my own tracking and cannot figure out which state BA is not picking up and it is really bugging me. Good luck!
     
    #52 cryptichead, May 18, 2016
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  13. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Does the master listings also affect countries count?
     
    #53 Scott17Taylor, May 18, 2016
  14. Dicers

    Dicers Grand Pooh-Bah (3,436) Sep 2, 2012 California
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    Don't forget DC
     
    #54 Dicers, May 18, 2016
  15. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    I'm at 44 states and 94 styles.. Each new tick is like, Christmas morning.
     
    #55 StoutSnob40, May 20, 2016
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  16. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Possibly but I have not noticed it... What brewery are you thinking about that might make a difference in countries since almost all of the Master Beer Listings are US companies so would only effect one country.
     
    #56 dbrauneis, May 23, 2016
  17. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Nope but maybe they one missed the job that does the update, check back after another hour or two (otherwise you already had SC, LA, or MS).
     
    #57 dbrauneis, May 23, 2016
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  18. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    It showed up, it just took longer than I was expecting.
     
    #58 Scott17Taylor, May 23, 2016
  19. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Ok, Heineken and xingu didn't count in the countries count. Are they master listings?
     
    #59 Scott17Taylor, May 26, 2016
  20. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    They should count in the countries count - I think that it only gets updated once per day though.
     
    #60 dbrauneis, May 27, 2016
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