New to Ohio (2016)

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  1. Runofthedill

    Runofthedill Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2014 Ohio

    what is the labeling mandate for outside the state brewers? Hadn't heard that bit before.
     
    #1741 Runofthedill, Jun 13, 2016
  2. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    The bottles/cans are supposed to be labeled as high abv, or something. It won't be a problem for new beers being made in state, but not sure what out of state brewers will do w existing beer.
     
    #1742 miketd, Jun 13, 2016
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  3. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    I don't know. It doesn't really make sense when we talk about draft beer anyway. Who cares if the keg is labeled?

    Edit: The more I think about it, it would be smart for the distributor or retailer to add a sticker. Good thinking.
     
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  4. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    Or, maybe people should think before they post things that add zero value to anything but could increase scrutiny on the good guys. Every single table at Fat Heads was collecting tickets as is required by law.

    Nope, there's a real question about how to handle draft too. We'll see how the state goes about approval for labels.
     
    #1744 jampics2, Jun 13, 2016
  5. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    If they stand to make bank, they'll make the labels. Adding stickers to labels would be a PITA, especially if they can be sold as singles. Think about this - tons of local and regional beers have information about the refund amount in Rhode Island even though they aren't distributed within 800 miles of RI. If breweries can add "high alcohol beer" in similar small print on the back, why wouldn't they? But what could get really f'd up is if another state had a different definition or requirement, then who the hell knows.
     
    #1745 jampics2, Jun 13, 2016
  6. williamDbar

    williamDbar Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2012 Ohio

    This is just my opinion on the whole label issue. So I could be dead wrong. But if the out of state brewers have to put stickers on bottles or re-label bottles/cans, then that might hinder immediate access to above 12% beers come beginning of September. This could end up being a good thing for the brewery's here in Ohio. It's not like Ohio Brewers can just muster up an above 12% beer in 90 days...right(please correct me if I am wrong)!? In a sense it would "level the playing field" for when these beers finally arrive. Simultaneously having out of state above 12% beers and in state above 12% beers hitting the shelf. Again, I could be dead wrong on this, but I don't think we will see above 12% beers the day(August 29th/30th) it becomes legal. Things don't seem to work that quickly...
     
    #1746 williamDbar, Jun 13, 2016
  7. fiver29

    fiver29 Savant (1,054) Sep 18, 2007 Ohio
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    Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on how each brewery and/or distributor handles it. Or what the state requires. Lots of variables that will work itself out I'm sure. To Jampics point it won't be hard for a brewery to add a line to a label moving forward. Seems like the easiest solution.

    They could have something brewed and ready for packaging within 2 weeks. Doesn't mean they will. Getting things approved likely takes longer. Or working something into a rotation. Can it work into their existing operation? Again, more variables. Etc, etc. With 90 days notice they potentially could. It's likely they won't. But who knows?

    Pretty much this ^
     
    #1747 fiver29, Jun 14, 2016
  8. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    There are already some >12% beers in tanks/barrels around the state. But the labels can't be approved until the law goes into effect, so you won't see any packaged "High ABV" beer at bottleshops or on draft at taprooms on 8/31 or for at least a few weeks (or possibly even months) after. Maybe something like a "High ABV" batch of Big Bad Baptist or MI KBS sneaks through but nothing new can be sold that day.

    We could see something made in-house on tap at a brewery theoretically on 8/31 - the recipe approval process doesn't declare ABV (IIRC) and there is no label approval if the beer isn't distributed off-premise.
     
    #1748 jampics2, Jun 14, 2016
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  9. chrismattlin

    chrismattlin Pooh-Bah (1,663) May 10, 2014 Ohio
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    I'd imagine we'll have a few +12% beers in September...
    >Triple Digit, here in Cincy, started brewing such a beer the day after the law passed.
    >Jackie O's brewer has said they have a 15%er in barrels.
    >I'm sure we'll some releases almost immediately, such as DFH 120 Minute (which is a Sept/Oct release), Evil Twin stuff, probably Prairie Bomb!, ect.
     
    #1749 chrismattlin, Jun 14, 2016
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  10. Runofthedill

    Runofthedill Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2014 Ohio

    yeah, Prairie probably can't wait to start shipping us Bomb, stuff sits on shelves everywhere else.
     
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  11. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    Thirsty Dog already announced a couple too. Speaking of TD, the Sherry Barrel Wee Heavy 750's hit the taproom this afternoon. Not sure if they will see distro or not, but every other big bottle seems to.
     
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  12. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    Just read that Tallgrass hopes to start distributing by the end of summer. Really liked Buffalo Sweat. Excited to try some of the varients.
     
    #1752 WesMantooth, Jun 14, 2016
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  13. jampics2

    jampics2 Pooh-Bah (2,414) Dec 19, 2008 Ohio
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    Am I crazy or were they in Ohio just a few years ago?
     
    #1753 jampics2, Jun 14, 2016
  14. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    I thought I remembered seeing it at some point too. That name kind of stands out.
     
    #1754 WesMantooth, Jun 14, 2016
  15. dtx00

    dtx00 Savant (1,078) Oct 21, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I remember seeing them at VE when I used to go there. They were definitely in OH
     
    #1755 dtx00, Jun 14, 2016
  16. williamDbar

    williamDbar Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2012 Ohio

    Not crazy...you are correct. Cavalier had them.
     
    #1756 williamDbar, Jun 14, 2016
  17. beace

    beace Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2007 California

    Jackie O's will not release anything above 12 until second quarter of 2017.
     
    #1757 beace, Jun 14, 2016
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  18. pest

    pest Savant (1,039) Sep 2, 2007 Ohio
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    Any chance mumsy or ice DA could make come back now?
     
    #1758 pest, Jun 14, 2016
  19. CapCollector16

    CapCollector16 Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Ohio

    Will Prairie Apple Brandy Noir hit Ohio or too high ABV?
     
    #1759 CapCollector16, Jun 15, 2016
  20. Mshull

    Mshull Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2013 Ohio

    We got it last year
     
    #1760 Mshull, Jun 15, 2016
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