Spiteful Brewing: A Goddamn Delightful Day

The pricing of this "event" surely doesn't pass the Adam Silver suspending Draymond Green to prolong the finals smell test

 

I said it earlier in the thread. My fiance loved the beer at FOBAB and I'm acquiring bottles to open over our wedding weekend. Paying $110 for this is cheaper than the secondary market.

I've never said it's not their prerogative or right to charge more. I just said it's clearly rubbing a lot of people the wrong way. I would much rather throw my money behind Mikerphone than these guys now, on a weekly basis.

 

Nice, there are two of us on here! But the NBA's been a joke for a loooooooooooooooooong time...

BAMCC is one of my favorites, but I think my girlfriend loves it even more than I do. I practically killed myself getting a bottle when it hit stores recently (in the truck-chasing fiasco, of which I didn't partake), so I can definitely see where you're coming from.

 

Until Mikerphone does this.

 

Seems unlikely he will, but I suppose you never know. He's already come out against stores gouging the price on his beers. And he's released 2 batches of Special Sauce without raising the price. He's brewing another batch of Imperial Smells Like Bean Spirit - we'll see if he raises the price on that.

 

To be fair, it doesn't take much to do that with the beer community. A lot of people seem to always be ready to declare the next price gouging brewery or those that have sold out. I'm not lumping you in with that lot, just saying there are plenty of them out there.

I hope everyone that goes enjoys themselves, and if anyone that has a ticket has some bitterness about the price at this point...try to forget about that and just enjoy your time. Going in with the mind state of being mad/disappointed about the price you paid usually just leads to not enjoying yourself as much.

Also, the price gouging on this beer is nothing compared to what you will (or most likely already have) encounter with putting a wedding together! So, overpaying for a few bottles of special beer will be a drop in the bucket for the overall event. Hopefully they show well for you and your soon-to-be-wife.

 

You can blame this on InBev and those who stood in line all around the country to buy a 16oz bottle of beer for 60 dollars.

High tied is going to raise all ships eventually. Get used to it.

Spiteful is clearly testing the market. This release is a luxury item. No stress involved. Just pay up and show up. I'm sure they'll do the event, reflect on how things went afterwards and adjust to however they see fit.

Releasing hyped beers has become a no win situation for most breweries. And that's the customers fault

 

Rare <> BAMCC. It's more like Regal = BAMCC which would put the price point in the $20-$25 range.

 

The craft beer market is not a mature one. Companies are still learning how to set prices. I think a lot of brewers are secretly thanking spiteful for basically running a beta test for everyone.

This doesn't make spiteful bad. They are trying to figure out the market just like everyone else.

Don't forget spiteful makes some of the best IPAs in the state and sells 6 packs and 4 packs for reasonable prices

 

This really has nothing to do with "InBev" (which I don't think is really to blame either way, as non-AB-InBev GI priced the original Rare in the 40s, despite having no idea if there was demand for a beer that expensive), and honestly, the vast majority of BA releases are going this direction (mostly because beer nerds have been proven willing to cough up excessive amounts of money on anything BA). As ratwheels pointed out, BAMCC would be closer to one of the other BCBS variants, and so pricing is pretty close to in-line with that (with that being said, BCBS is also arguably the king of BA releases, so they can put a little bit of a premium on theirs where a company like Spiteful would normally hesitate to do so).

Either way, it's certainly possible that this is just Spiteful testing the market, but I'm hopeful that it's just them making a well-intentioned mistake in the pricing of their first BA event.

 

The secondary market for beer is VERY small, compared to the overall market for craft beer. Many other breweries could charge a lot more, without the need for any test of the market, and still sell beer. Tree House sells every single drop of beer it produces each and every week. They're in the process of building a new facility, which costs A LOT of money, and they have not raised the prices of their offerings.

We'll agree to disagree on Spiteful's other beers. I think they're fine, but can easily be replaced by superior Pipeworks (I think I paid $17.99 or $19.99 for BA Jones Dog, which was also a FOBAB gold medal winner in 2014) and Mikerphone offerings.

Again, a FOBAB medal winning beer event has not sold out in 5 days in Chicago. That tells us all we need to know.

 

I rarely refer to GI by their name anymore. Sorry. Just a force of habit. I get what you're saying.

BAMCC is Spiteful's most successful beer of all time. It is a very small batch and one of the highest rated beers on untapped. What is Goose Islands most successful beer of all time? Regal? No, it's Rare. (I get the trade value reference to regal, but I don't agree those secondary values,)

A 22ounce bottle of BAMCC sold for 25 bucks last year and was gone in 15 minutes tops. The release was awful and customers were unhappy. So what does Spiteful do? They make it easier to get the bottle without the hassle of the chase. What do you pay for convenience? More money. Anyone mad at the price should calm down. Beer is no longer the everyday working mans drink. At least not beers like BAMCC

 

Okay to be clear, we're not including BAMCC in that "can easily be replaced" statement, right (I know, it says other beers)? Because I will stand up for BAMCC's honor here, if need be.

But yeah, I'm pretty impressed that the event still has tickets for sale. And I feel a little bad. Nothing against Spiteful in this one, honestly.

 

Other breweries disagree. Destihl and Pipeworks both had gold medal winning beers at FOBAB (Destihl's topped BAMCC) and they didn't force you to spend an additional $80 on other stuff to buy their one beer.

Also, I'll pay $40 for BAMCC, if they decided that was a fair retail price (which is $15 over what they charged for the same beer in the last release). They're forcing me to spend an additional $70 on 2 bottles of BA Pigeon Porter and 2 (still don't understand this) glasses.

 

No, no, definitely not including BAMCC in there! He mentioned they make some of the best IPAs in the state. I was implying I'd take Lizard King, the Fish series, Lunches Brunches Interviews, Special Sauce, etc. over any of Spiteful's IPAs.

 

You and I both knows nobody cares about those beers like they did about acquiring BAMCC last time.

(And that 14 jones dog (b209?)was a once in a lifetime barrel, it won't be made again so don't make that comparison either.)

 

I think Biker Appreciation is my favorite imperial IPA I've had in Illinois. Maybe along with the first year of Unsessionable.

 

You can compare Rare to BAMCC but I can't compare BA Jones Dog?

Dosvidanya went off the shelves pretty damn quickly.

Like I said, Tree House sells out of every drop of beer they can produce weekly and they don't gouge their customers. I can say the same about dozens of other breweries throughout the country. Spiteful chose otherwise.

 

I'm defending Spiteful's thought process. You are now paying for convenience above and beyond some excellent barrel aged beers. By raising the price, they are assured to be selling to the people who really want the beers and not those looking to immediately flip them. We'll wait and see how it goes, but I don't consider it gouging. They have created a high end product and eliminated the struggle of acquiring that product. People will pay money for that convenience. How much money? That's what the market is learning.

Anyway, we now know you are not a big spiteful fan, so it puzzles me why you even clicked on the thread to begin with.

Ps. I didn't but a ticket. Out of my price range.