Refunds for 2015 Regular BCBS and 2015 Prop

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  1. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    But why I just opened another bottle and its still Infected... :grinning:
     
  2. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Pasteurization will kill any "bugs" that were picked up from the barrels. A local brewery had one of their barrel aged beers they brewed for years with no problem have issues like those described with GI. The beer was good when bottled but developed a sourish note over time.

    This brewery started to pasteurize their beer as well as using another piece of equipment to remove particles in the beer right before or right after barreling. The feedback I see about their stuff nowadays is "better then KBS" or "KBS killer" so it can be resolved.

    Edit: The peice of equipment I believe the brewery has been using to remove unwanted particles in the beer is a Centrifuge, and I imagine a very large one.
     
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  3. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    But would pasteurizing basically remove that little note on the BCBS Label. "develops in bottle up to 5 years"
     
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  4. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It would still age the same. The barrel heat would fade with slight oxidation over time. It just wouldn'the turn sour.
     
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  5. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    right. my understanding is Deschutes has pasteurized ever since the Abyss issue years ago (2009ish). but that wasn't quite what i was trying to get. pasteurization sounds like it works preemptively, so long as there is no off-ness by the time one reaches the dump & bottling stage. sounds like it is unlikely to fix/correct beer that has already drifted to discernibly off in barrels? is that correct?
     
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  6. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    If the beer is already noticeably off in the barrel it should be dumped/discarded before blending/bottling. The remaining stock that tastes alright would then be bottled/pasteurized to prevent/kill any small bugs that may not be noticeable to the taste during bottling.
     
  7. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    For example

    Green Flash Silva Stout-they dumped bad barrels into the blend, the beer was horrible immediatly.

    Goose Island Barleywine/Coffee this year-Small bugs unnoticed at first develop over time.
     
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  8. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    I know stuff can still age as Rodenboch Grand Cru is pasterized and still ages.

    Removing the Bottle condition and making BCBS Pasterized. The beer isnt really going to "develop" it will change yes like you said from oxidation.
    I can say if they go this route I will never age a BCBS ever again.
     
  9. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    the only thing bottle conditioning does is carbonate the beer, so if it is properly carbonated you won't notice a difference.
     
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  10. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    thats the only thing....

    So live yeast in the bottle compared to Bottles that dont have it you will not find a difference if properly carbonated?

    this has to be the most absurd thing i have ever heard on this page.
     
  11. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I did my research, I've aged beers and read the literature. Sure if you take some sugar out of a more refined style it will be advantageous over time but something as sweet as BCBS you will not be able to tell the difference. People buy these beers and expect them to age into flawless things but they just change. If you don't like big bourbon flavors and massive malt sweetness you probably shouldn't be buying these beers in the first place.
     
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  12. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    I can say I agree there. With the big bourbon and massive sweetness.
     
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  13. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

  14. tmbgnicu

    tmbgnicu Maven (1,280) Mar 15, 2014 Pennsylvania
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  15. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

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  16. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    2015's Label does'nt say "develops for up to 5 years" ...
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  17. tmbgnicu

    tmbgnicu Maven (1,280) Mar 15, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    The "Stout aged in scotch whiskey barrels" is new on Prop however...
     
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  18. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    "dude" you are correct.:sunglasses:
     
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  19. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    People said the same thing last year. I highly doubt G.I makes that change...
     
  20. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    "Develops off flavors for up to 5 years"...
     
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