Fresh year-round beer in stores

Stone IPA is easy to find fresh for me. 2Hearted and All Day IPA are also usually under 2 months

 

But you see Russian River does control all of that in the part of CA where it self distributes. If a store is found to not be sticking to the guidelines RR has established the account is closed and a some other store that agrees to their conditions is given the allotment. So there is at least one exception.

 

What, unable to dispute my facts you attack my sentence structure? That's weak, man.

In order to resolve any ambiguity I'll restate my premise . . . No Craft brewer selling beer in my area under the conditions I described is able to exercise control over how the beer is being shipped, warehoused, distributed or displayed. That also applies to any other part of the Country where similar conditions exist.

 

I can think of a few (self distributors) that think that they "control" all of those aspects. Russian River I would bet succeeds better than most. Also, the claims by many of refrigeration down the supply chain are often suspect.

 

Huh? You noted that I omitted (accidentally - and later corrected in an "Edit") one word of your post. I didn't "attack" your sentence structure. I did point out that that one temporarily missing word didn't seem to make a difference to your statement with which I disagreed.

I did challenge your claim that "no brewer" has control over their distribution. You made a blanket statement and, with some 3,000 independent beer wholesalers and probably well over 2000 breweries that package beer and either self-distribute or use independent wholesale distributors (i.e., not counting brewpubs or breweries that only sell on-site), I just don't think there's anyone with the knowledge of all those thousands of contracts to be able to make an absolute statement like the one you made in post #25.

And it also ignores the many self-distributing breweries that do their own shipping and warehousing, and deal directly with their customers - retail stores, bars and restaurants.

That's quite a different statement than the one I initially quoted of yours:

I'm not sure how you can possibly know that... Certainly, within their contracts with their distributors many brewers do specify such conditions - that's how they attempt to maintain some control. Here are some examples from a sample Michigan Contract:

The Brewers Association even lists such aspects as part of the exploratory process when looking for a distributor:

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Someone should just create IPA's that self destruct after 8 weeks

 

Dance around all you like you've yet to disprove any of the facts I presented.

 

He doesn't have to Russian River already exists as a counter example.

 

Respectfully, Russian River has no control over our local conditions either.

 

If they distributed there, which they don't, it would only be under their conditions. If your distributor wouldn't agree and follow through they away goes the allotment.

 

They don't so why bring it up?

 

Because you originally used the absolute "no brewer" not the relative or conditional "no brewer I'm aware of or who distributes locally" which is what JK was suggesting was incorrect and based on a misunderstanding.

There was neither attempt nor motive to dispute your "local" facts.

 

I take it then we all agree my local facts are correct.