Thoughts on using sorachi ace and citra together?

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  1. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I was thinking of using sorachi ace and citra together as the late addition for a saison. Has anybody tried this mix?
     
    #1 ghostinthemachine, Jun 29, 2016
  2. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    No...Sorachi Ace is the spawn of Satan :wink: I'm not a fan of Sorachi Ace except in really small quantities and really dislike the almost dill flavor it comes off of to me in the flavor department. I've tried at least a dozen SA beers and only found 1 that I could drink, and it was a real minor addition in that beer. But if you're a fan of Sorachi Ace and have experience with it, give it a try! Seems like it'll be easy to cover it up/mesh with Citra and a saison would be a good style to meld it into.
     
    #2 DrMindbender, Jun 29, 2016
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  3. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    I second that Sorachi Ace is the spawn of Satan.
     
    #3 ssam, Jun 29, 2016
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  4. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I've only tried one beer with it and I enjoyed it. I'm the type who has to learn lessons the heard way. Imma give it a go I reckon
     
    #4 ghostinthemachine, Jun 29, 2016
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  5. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Keep us posted and may the force be with you!
     
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  6. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    I also hate Sorachi :slight_smile:

    What yeast are you thinking about? I did a Sorachi Saison with Belle Saison and it ended up very dry with the same mouthcoating feel that I get from Sorachi. I also did one with either Dupont dregs or 3724 and did not like that either.

    Go gentle with the Sorachi or you are just wasting the Citra.
     
    #6 wspscott, Jun 29, 2016
  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Sorachi Ace is less popular in these parts than a fart in church. Because it sucks.
    Citra is wildly popular. Because its good.

    I don't really know too many people that can claim to be experts with SA because like passing a kidney stone once is enough.
    I know that didn't add to your question but just keep in mind that SA is really, really hated and I want to make it clear just how awful it is.
    Cheers.
     
    #7 billandsuz, Jun 29, 2016
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  8. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I love both Sorachi and Citra. Separately. I would not recommend them together. On the other hand, who knows, maybe you or I would like it. They're both very powerful and very different. Together they might just be.... weird. I dunno. If you try it, let us know how well you think it turns out.
     
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  9. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    My other choice for this saison would be bavarian mandarino by itself. I usually use mosaic as a late addition but I want to try something different.
     
    #9 ghostinthemachine, Jun 30, 2016
  10. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I am brewing a 5 gallon batch and splitting it between yeasts. I will either do one with 3711 and one with dupont. The other option is pitching dupont then 3711 when it stalls and a brett blend I have in the other.
     
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  11. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    @ghostinthemachine I do like SA, so if you make it and it turns out, might have to drive to LA to have a pint. I guess that makes me a spawn of Satan
     
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  12. KCUnited

    KCUnited Savant (1,038) Nov 11, 2014 Arizona
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    Spawn of Saison.

    I've had one or two.
     
    #12 KCUnited, Jun 30, 2016
  13. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    FWIW, if you are going to pitch dupont, then I would just let it go until it is finished or I would just use 3711 from the beginning. I see no real benefit of mixing the two together.
     
    #13 wspscott, Jul 1, 2016
  14. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    The auto tuning capability of Citra should work in enhancing the positive traits of Sorachi while also negating its more polarizing aspects.
     
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  15. A2HB

    A2HB Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2013 Michigan

    Citra is the T-Pain of hops?
     
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  16. ghostinthemachine

    ghostinthemachine Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2015 Louisiana

    I've tried a mix fermentation with them before. I kind of got the best of both worlds. Bone dry in two weeks.
     
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