First time brewing, ferm temp was 50F this morning.

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  1. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    First things first, my wife bought me a brewing kit with a 1 gallon glass carboy for Christmas. I just now got around to making the wort and I got it in the fridge fermenting. I didn't know how cold the refrigerator was at the house I'm at. I checked this morning and it was 50F. I turned the fridge to the hottest setting (hopefully it gets about 5 degrees warmer or so) before I left for work this morning. The kit I have is a pale ale, and it said I need to keep the temp between 62-70F. Did I destroy my beer yet? I'm going to pick up a mini fridge during my break for warmer temps. I'm hoping I just slowed the activation of the yeast at that lower temperature and that nothing is wrong with my beer.
     
  2. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I doubt you did much damage to the yeast, but you definitely slowed your fermentation down. If you're not using an external thermostat to control the fridge temp, then this will keep happening no matter what fridge you use...a fridge thermostat isn't really designed to reach the lower end of fermentation temps because food would spoil at those temps. What is your room temp? It may be best to ferment just a little hot at room temp than to try fermenting at lager temps with an ale yeast.
     
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  3. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    Thanks for your reply, how can I control the temp with an external thermostat on the mini fridge I'm about to purchase? Can you link me some products? My room temp during the day can get as high as about 76-77 during the hot part of the day (Houston TX is HOT), and we keep the AC thermostat on 68. The temp then cools back down at night to about 68 and holds until it gets hotter outside. I think this is too variable for beer.
     
  4. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

  5. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    Great, thank you for that insight! What do you think about my variable room temp for the pale ale?
     
  6. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Your refrigerator is at 50deg? That's awfully high for your food. I would say 35-40 is more typical
     
  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site, coreyman, and to the Homebrewing forum. You just found a great hobby to monopolize your time if you let it, but you'll enjoy it regardless of how deep you get into brewing.

    I think that temp range is too warm to give you a good beer, but at least you would have the yeast working better than at 50 degrees. You should google 'swamp cooler' to see if you can use that kind of approach as a cooling method.

    If you have a basement, check out the temp on the basement floor. It might be ideal.

    I'd hate to see you get a mini-fridge and an external thermostat for this beer because you're rushing into it and might not make the best purchase. And by that I mean, if you have room for an old standard size fridge, you might want the extra room for whenever you switch to brewing 5-gallon batches which may not fit into a mini-fridge. Also, a second fridge is great for holding all of the beer that you'll brew just to keep it fresh, or later on if you get into cellaring your beer, it will be better for stored beers than a hot closet would be.

    Also, since this beer kit that you just brewed was a Christmas present, I'm going to guess that the yeast was a packet of dry yeast? Did it have a 'Use By' date that is still within your pitch date?
     
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  8. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

  9. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    On the bright side, the error you committed is a better than your temperature being 80 degrees!
     
  10. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I think you did great. Starting the fermentation cold then warming it up promotes a very clean beer with less yeast character (fruity esters and phenols). Should turn out great. By the way... the first 3 or 4 days is all that really matters for temperature anyway. After that point, I'd recommend removing from the refrigerator and just letting it sit in your house between 68 and 77 F or whatever. It will be just fine in that whole range.
     
  11. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    I turned it up last night when I put the wort in there.

    Swamp coolers do not work well here, the humidity is too high. We don't have basements either. I'm currently in between houses so I don't want to purchase a large fridge that will be hard to move, I did already think about that 5gal capacity though and I'm looking out for that :slight_smile:

    You know what, I didn't even check the date on the yeast! It was a dry yeast, I'll check the date when I get home.

    Glad to hear it!

    I'll definitely look for that 5 gal capacity.
     
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  12. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    Thank you for your response, do you have any reading sources I can do on the science/math behind that first 3 or 4 days being what matters? I'm definitely down to try this, just want my first beer to be drinkable!
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Firstly, permit me to recommend that you read the book “How to Brew” by John Palmer. There is an on-line version but perhaps the updated hardcopy would be more appropriate.

    Below is a link to an article that addresses this topic.

    During the exponential growth phase of fermentation (days 1-4): “Most of the flavor and aroma compounds have been produced, including fusel alcohols, esters, and sulfur compounds.”

    https://byo.com/mead/item/635-fermentation-time-line

    Cheers!
     
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  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Since you are brewing only a 1-gallon batch, placing your fermentor in a bucket or tub of some sort with some ice would help a lot to get the temp down to around 68 degrees. Freezing water in plastic bottles and changing them out with new frozen ones once they thaw prevents getting too much water in the tub from melting ice. There are methods that don't depend on evaporation in your high humidity climate to create the cooling needed.
     
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  15. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    @coreyman welcome to the site from a fellow Houston'r. To reiterate what @crcostel said, is this a backup fridge or your main fridge? If it is your main fridge and you are letting the temp get above 40, that is a bozo no no. The swamp coolers will work down south, just use something like 1 or 2 liter bottles of water that you have put in the freezer. Would hate you see you ruin your food and get sick over homebrew. Good luck with it
     
  16. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    Yea I was wrong, it was 40 degrees in the main fridge, by the time I had taken out the thermometer and touched all over it it had increased by 10 degrees. I have my mini fridge now, it isn't even powered on and the internal temp was 55 this morning. I'm assuming the thermal mass of the carboy is keeping the temp down for now. It will probably be about 70 when I get home today after work.

    Also I figured out what controller I'm going to get for my mini fridge I picked up yesterday. It's an STC-1000 or ITC-1000F (if you want Fahrenheit readings) These things are a lot cheaper and a little more hands on :slight_smile:
     
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  17. coreyman

    coreyman Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2016 Texas

    Thank you for that advice. I have thought about it. With my work schedule I wouldn't be able to change out the freezing water in plastic bottles often enough. I'm going to go with a mini fridge and 3rd party thermostat/temp controller for now.

    That is a great article, I just keep reading it over and over again! Thank you for your help. I do believe I slowed down the exponential growth phase with the low temps I had the yeast at though.
     
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  18. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I would just get a thermometer,put in in a bucket of water like MG said and place in front of the AC.
     
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