Using a pale LME kit, want an IPA. Thoughts?

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  1. Taming_The_Brew

    Taming_The_Brew Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2016 Mississippi

    I've got a Pale ale LME kit headed my way, but I'd really like for my first batch of homebrew to be an IPA. A) Because I love IPA's and B) because of this article https://goo.gl/hMpdgX
    So my question is, how would I go about adapting the recipe to make an IPA? I would imagine that it wouldn't be too difficult, but I definitely need advice.
     
  2. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to the BA site and to the Homebrewing forum. You're about to get involved in a hobby that will give a great sense of accomplishment while emptying your wallet, but it will be worth it. :slight_smile:

    Do you have a link to the kit/recipe that you are getting, and do you consider the hops that are in the kit to be your favorites? What other hop would you like included in the beer if you want something else?
     
  3. Taming_The_Brew

    Taming_The_Brew Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2016 Mississippi

    I couldn't find anything about the kit from Midwest, but here's what I found after some digging. https://goo.gl/49VnXh
    It says it uses 1oz of cascade for the whole 60, which I don't think I have any qualms with cascade (but this is my first batch). I want more than just hop bitterness though. I'd also like to try to dry hop if possible. Too ambitious?
     
  4. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Dry-hopping is not ambitious at all for your first brew; you can do it right in your primary fermentor when fermentation is done or nearly done. Which do you use for your primary fermentor, a bucket or a carboy? In a bucket it's easy to put the hops in a hop bag for dry-hopping which makes it easy to remove them when dry-hopping is done. A carboy necessitates dry-hopping by dropping the loose pellets into the carboy, and then later you have do your best to avoid siphoning them into your bottling bucket.

    Since you want to go off-recipe and convert this pale ale recipe to an IPA, you essentially want to bump up the malt a bit to get into the ABV range of a typical IPA (unless you want this to be a session IPA), and also add more hops. Do you have a local homebrew supply store close to you so that you can pick up 3-4 ounces of hops and a pound of dry malt extract?
     
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  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Have you experienced a brew day before? If not, read www.howtobrew.com and stick with the recipe as presented. My first brew day seemed pretty crazy the day of, in hindsight it went really smooth. Getting the process down is the biggest lesson from that first brew, and changing the recipe can cause unnecessary confusion. That being said, you gotta brew something you like. I would leave the recipe alone, but add some dry hops to make it pop. Esentially, add an ounce of your favorite flavor hop directly into the beer a week after brew day and let it sit another week. It doesn't muck up the brew day, and you get a beer you like.
     
  6. Taming_The_Brew

    Taming_The_Brew Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2016 Mississippi

    Sounds like the best of both worlds. Thanks for yalls input!
     
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  7. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

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    Taming_The_Brew Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2016 Mississippi

  9. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    It comes with 1 packet of US-05. Per Mr Malty that is about enough (New OG would be 1.052). If your yeast is very old it may end up under-pitched. Since you are probably not going to do a starter you may want to get a second one
     
  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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  11. Taming_The_Brew

    Taming_The_Brew Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2016 Mississippi

    Another thought, what if I used the same amount of LME and specialty grains but boiled less water. Making ~4 gallons of beer instead of 5. Then I feel like the amount of yeast would still be appropriate and the ABV would be more in the range of an IPA. Thoughts?
     
  12. warchez

    warchez Zealot (545) Oct 19, 2004 Massachusetts

    You could do that but you would also be concentrating the unfermentables in the extract possibly leaving your beer sweeter than you might like. I recommend just using some plain sugar to get the ABV up. The sugar would be 100% fermentable and not be to big an issue.
     
  13. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Also a good option but I was trying not to add any steps, only increased quantities
     
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I would have upped the 20 min addition, doubling the bittering addition (for my tastes) is never an option.
     
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