Heady Topper for BCBS

They're in the process of expanding which should double production, and they are hoping to be done by November. I think the HOPE is that with the expansion they should be able to distro to all of VT fully, and occasional deliveries to Boston. They have made it clear that their primary goal is servicing VT top to bottom before extending beyond.

 

Yeah they should be jumping in size. But they sell out at the beginning of every weekend at the brewery and are in a very localized distribution. Maybe their expansion can help supply the rest of VT. Hopefully the crazy demand there is because of the tourist season. I'd like to see what sales are like in November.

 

Looking forward to November. Local demand is really high, but demand has GOT to die down after the busy summer. This summer has been really busy for everyone up here with the fantastic weather.

 

you're missing the point. BCBS is (for the time being; maybe will change even within a month) harder to get a lot of for most people that can get it. this isn't their "justification" for not trading it. this is the reason they don't have it to trade, or don't want to trade it for something that they know they can get with something more available (notice that this latter part is not "justification" or "rationalization"; i don't have a justification for not running at full speed into a brick wall, i just have no reason to do so, and many reasons not to).

it's not really up for argument the way you're suggesting... you could argue about whether or not i'm right about the facts, but you are plainly arguing about decision-making and "well, i could think of a reason not to trade heady too, so [etc]." that's a pointless approach.

i mean, i wouldn't trade heady for BCBS. i like the former more. but i can keep a discussion straight...

 

Do I have to bust out some old school petty rationale?

Bourbon County Stout
1,259 Wants | 1,044 Gots

Heady Topper
2,009 Wants | 303 Gots

I'm also willing to bet one is more accurate than the other. Guess which one. I put money on the one that hasn't been in production for over 5 years.

 

but you're still missing the point. did you read my post?

 

Heady for BCS $4$ seems fair to me.
Just find someone who isn't big on barrel aged impy stouts.
That's your best bet for a fair trade.

 

No. I can't read your writing.

 

apparently not. if you want to try again, i'll talk to you about it. if you want to quote some irrelevant stuff from elsewhere on the site, not so into that...

 

Who says they can get Heady with more readily available stuff? Seems like many people complain every week how NE traders are ransoming it. I'm not arguing reasons why I wouldn't trade Heady. I'm proving a point that it's lame to discuss, as you can see by my pointless reasonings. You've missed my point.

Everyone's been firing off reasons BCBS is suddenly so hard to trade for. Well you know what? No one gives a shit about how rare your shelf whale is that's eventually going to be a year-round beer. I can make up 50 dumb excuses why Heady should be hard to trade too. It seems like every month a beer that used to collect dust on the shelf suddenly latches onto the hype train. It's a joke to watch.

And how is my info irrelevant? This is the title of the thread: Heady Topper for BCBS. It's actually quite helpful for some people that are into wants and gots.

 

it's not sudden... BCBS has been difficult to get with "everyday shelf beers" for a couple years now. it's just not as easy to get it in bulk as it was in 2010 and before (and then few of us bought it in bulk anyway because it was so expensive and--if you really compare with all the other stuff available--not worth $20 a 4pk more than once a year if that).

heady, on the other hand, people are getting cases of it and spreading it around. notice that none of what i'm saying is evaluating anyone's motivations. it could be the case that people were "ransoming heady." if so, then it would be as tough to get heady as BCBS at the moment. but, most people don't ransom it.

comments like this are why i should probably be insulting you rather than discussing politely. put on your thinking cap: ask yourself, "did i post the wants/got ratio in response to the OP? or did i post them directly in response to pahn, and say--explicitly--that i was pulling some 'reasoning' to refute the stuff he wrote that i quoted?"

what do you come up with? if you're honest, you realize that you irrelevantly posted wants/gots to me even though i was pointing out that there's no point in talking about "why i won't trade BCBS/heady." you didn't post it for the OP. this is what i was talking about with "keeping the discussion straight." i find it very, very irritating to talk to people who don't bother doing this. if you change the rules of the "debate," it prevents any sort of discussion and serves only to annoy people.

maybe you find my post annoying, but you wouldn't receive such a post if you weren't posting half-thought out face-save bullshit to me.

 

Your facts might be straight. Sure Heady is available in large quantities to those who can get it, but the number of people who can get it are far fewer than the number of people who can get BCBS. I'd argue that for me personally, Heady and BCBS are equally as hard to get in large quantities.

Also I hope you physically patted yourself on the back for thinking you weren't insulting bearsonacid, and I hope you felt really good about yourself for a few seconds. I do it on a daily basis, so I totally get why you do it.

 

Jimmies still not rustled.

 

it's usually easier to get something that a sufficient number of people can get a lot of. that you can't get a lot of either just means you're not the one to trade with to get either beer. it doesn't at all speak to which one is easier to trade for.

cf difficulty trading for founders. some people chalk up the problem with trading for their limited release, 17,000 bottle (bottle right? not case? either way it's a giant number) beers to people ransoming them, but the fact is that "i was only able to buy 1," is not "why I Deserve A Better deal," it's "why i decided not to trade it / take any old ISO."

i always know when i'm insulting someone. however, i find that it's rare for people to be aware when they're insulting me by not bothering to think about my/their posts as we interact. the reason i'm so consistently right in online arguments is that i actually respect people enough to think about what they write to me, not any sort of intellectual superiority.

in fact--and i could probably find examples of this, maybe in that ebay thread--when an argument goes on so long and so boringly that i start to lose the thread / forget who said what, i always bow out. i don't keep fighting on and pretending that i'm right just because i'm the one talking.

then by all means, post as thoughtlessly as you like. if you don't mind it being pointed out in giant response posts, there's no downside. of course, not much of an upside either.